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Old 12-15-2010, 12:29 PM
 
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The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Further reason to shut down this government come Saturday evening! Call the bluff of the liberals. Stop this unconstitutional action in bill origination and legislative process.
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:41 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Reid and Pelosi have been circumventing the Constitution for their own goals for far too long.

What Congress needs is a rule preventing lame duck sessions from voting and passing ANY legislation. It would give members time to have hearings and whoever is President time to review legislation.

They're going full steam ahead with this nightmare just like they did the last nightmares.

Pass it or we're all gonna die!

They are pathetic criminals.
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:45 PM
 
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Does it matter? It'll never pass. This is just more political soapboxing. THey threw everything but the kitchen sink in there so that in 2012 they can say "See? We tried to vote to give you this and this and this and this and this! We're awesome!"

Reid knows it'll never pass. Everybody knows it'll never pass. Which is why there's not even an attempt to figure out how to pay for all of it. The whole thing is for show.
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:49 PM
 
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Does it matter? It'll never pass. This is just more political soapboxing. THey threw everything but the kitchen sink in there so that in 2012 they can say "See? We tried to vote to give you this and this and this and this and this! We're awesome!"

Reid knows it'll never pass. Everybody knows it'll never pass. Which is why there's not even an attempt to figure out how to pay for all of it. The whole thing is for show.
Does it matter? Yes, the Constitution and the rule of law matter.

It will never pass? I'm not so confident. There are at least four GOP Senators considering voting in the affirmative, including retiring Sen. Kit Bond (RINO-MO).
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Old 12-15-2010, 06:00 PM
 
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The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Further reason to shut down this government come Saturday evening! Call the bluff of the liberals. Stop this unconstitutional action in bill origination and legislative process.
The bill is a spending bill, not a raising revenues bill.. Yes, its constitutional...
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Old 12-15-2010, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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PSSST


http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll622.xml
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Old 12-15-2010, 07:06 PM
 
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This is an end run around congress for the Democratic party and the President, funding Obama care so the Republican House can't stop it. But what it will do is cause the congress to come to a halt in the coming year by the House refusing to let any bill be voted on.
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Old 12-15-2010, 07:27 PM
 
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That appears to be a military appropriations bill. Obamacare, HHS funding, Det. of Interior land grab, are not it the passed House version, not even close.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...11hr3082eh.pdf
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Old 12-15-2010, 07:29 PM
 
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The bill is a spending bill, not a raising revenues bill.. Yes, its constitutional...
Thank you for the clarification. I figured there had to be some revenue in it but admittedly I'm not through the entire 2000 pages yet.
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Old 12-15-2010, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Only 6600 earmarks in this bill. Well Obama campaigned that he would veto any bill loaded with earmarks.
Put up or shut up Mr. President.
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