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classical liberal=historically American conservative=today's "medium-core" libertarian
Hmmm. I disagree. But like i always say, it's telling that Eisenhower couldn't get elected to any office as a Republican today. In fact, outside of the Northeast, he couldn't even make it out of a Republican primary.
So if you want to talk about how much Liberals have changed, what does THAT tell you?
Hmmm. I disagree. But like i always say, it's telling that Eisenhower couldn't get elected to any office as a Republican today. In fact, outside of the Northeast, he couldn't even make it out of a Republican primary.
So if you want to talk about how much Liberals have changed, what does THAT tell you?
I agree, the right have gone incredibly far right, especially as of late. People like ike would be considered moderate democrats today. Hell even Reagan would likely be called a RINO, tarred, feathered, and run out of town.
Hmmm. I disagree. But like i always say, it's telling that Eisenhower couldn't get elected to any office as a Republican today. In fact, outside of the Northeast, he couldn't even make it out of a Republican primary.
So if you want to talk about how much Liberals have changed, what does THAT tell you?
I don't get your response, as I'm not arguing with you. I call the Republican base "neo-conservative" as well.
Fascists are not the same as the others you posted. Fascists are far right not left as someone on TV keeps on pretending they are.
Yes. So quick to see the speck in the eye they don't see the log in their own.
Give it a name, lable it, and you no longer have to think it's real.
They called liberals Hitler, they are the one's who are doing this. Like a sibling hitting their sib and screaming for mom they were assaulted.
I have had it
We need to pay for some things. We need shared services. We need schools. We need health care. The current health care costs are high because of the uninsured showing up to the emergency room for care. They do receive it. Obama never said we were starting an agency to provide the care. Hello.
Again, things like skyboxes for the company should not be deducted. The AIG folks who seriously helped create this mess are no longer on the radar.
The top are swimming in wealth. They need to cough up.
Hmmm. I disagree. But like i always say, it's telling that Eisenhower couldn't get elected to any office as a Republican today. In fact, outside of the Northeast, he couldn't even make it out of a Republican primary.
So if you want to talk about how much Liberals have changed, what does THAT tell you?
Your point about Eisenhower seems accurate, but only at face value. Using the tax rates at the time and his expansion of the US Highway system, he does seem like a RINO, but John McCain is a RINO and won the Republican nomination in 2008. McCain was constantly referred to as "not conservative enough" yet he handily beat his primary challengers.
If you look at how Eisenhower governed, especially in regards to domestic policy and deficits / debt, it's a different picture. He allowed three recessions to occur during his presidency without intervention. He believed the free enterprise system should run itself. A true present-day RINO would not do this, and many so called "real conservatives" today probably wouldn't either in fear of losing re-election.
If you're referring to Eisenhower's stance of refusing to cut taxes until the budget was balanced, then I somewhat agree with you. I think it's ridiculous for any extension of the Bush or any other tax cuts to be extended unless there are matching spending cuts to avoid raising the deficit. But even this position is less RINO and more conservative. A RINO would go in the opposite direction, along with Democrats and raise spending and new federal programs without increasing taxes or matching cuts for the increased spending, as has been done in recent years by both parties.
Fascists are not the same as the others you posted. Fascists are far right not left as someone on TV keeps on pretending they are.
fascists are the right.....talk about rewriting history
fascism is a form of socialism, which all connects to marxism
fascism is left
As an ardent admirer of Marx, Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) called his version of Marxist socialism "Fascism" Instead of nationalization--government ownership--of private business, Mussolini advocated government control of business via complete bureaucratic regulation.
""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini
you can not deny
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