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Old 12-22-2010, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Did anyone else do the math on this....

She's been on and off welfare for 7 years.
She has 5 kids
The oldest is 6.
That means she's had 5 kids while being ON welfare.
How on earth can anyone think to bring 5 kids into this world as a single mother and be on welfare as your source of income ????

And then read about Joy..on and off for 10 years and admits "she's not motivated".

Who is going to slap some sense into these people ?
Whoooaaah! Hold on there Chairman Mao. Who the heck are you to criticize this woman's choice to have as many kids as she desires? How dare you!!!!! She actually adressses that in the video.....
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:08 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Are there no programs to help her solve her drug problems, which seem to be the main reason for her situation?
I feel very sorry for those people, their messed up lives and lack of perspective...
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Are there no programs to help her solve her drug problems, which seem to be the main reason for her situation?
Obviously she found time to have 5 kids.
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:13 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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What's that got to do with time?
Drug problems increase the likelihood of making wrong decisions...
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Are there no programs to help her solve her drug problems, which seem to be the main reason for her situation?
I feel very sorry for those people, their messed up lives and lack of perspective...
She's living in housing under a program in DC.
From the article:

"..Greenfield, who lives in an apartment in Southeast Washington operated by the nonprofit Community of Hope for those who have struggled with drug addiction."

And that program has health services so it was available to her for free.
As they say..you can lead a horse to water...
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:31 AM
 
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The article is much more insightful than the inflammatory op...
Uh huh. All poor people are just like this. No one in the history of the program ever used it for it's intended purpose and bettered themselves. Never happened, not once.
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:32 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Ok, unfortunately those programs don't always succeed. Same with reintegration programs for former inmates...
With five children she will continue to need some form of help as she doesn't seem like the kind of person who will land a high-paying job, if any.
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:35 AM
 
Location: South East
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It's an expected consequence of rewarding consumption and penalizing production. In other words, if you reward the takers, and penalize the givers, the takers "take over".


And the libs know this. That is why they cry for higher taxes on the rich and estate taxes and anything else they can think of to take from hard workers and give to a person like the one mentioned in the article.
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Unreal!!! And these lazy dopey leeches give people truly in need a bad name as well.

Get off your fat lazy arse and find a job...get rid of the loser boyfriend and go have your tubes tied or at the very least take some birth control
Who wants to wager her poor kids will follow right in her footsteps? Those babies are doomed.

Ms Greenfield doesn't look like she's missed any meals over the last 7 years either
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:50 AM
 
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Ok, unfortunately those programs don't always succeed. Same with reintegration programs for former inmates...
With five children she will continue to need some form of help as she doesn't seem like the kind of person who will land a high-paying job, if any.
Correct. How America deals with addicts is extremely ass backwards. We need to have a drug addict labor camp to pay for their drugs on the condition they can never leave until clean and sober. When they realize the voluntary prison they put themselves in, it might motivate them a little better but either way society shouldn't have to cover their tab. Having 5 kids while on welfare was addressed by norplant once upon a time but that had nasty side effects. Perhaps if the rules changed where a new one on the way reduced the check, or even removal to foster care, might steer them in the correct direction.

Either way, TANF has lifetime limits, and the end of the road is just that. The end. I can already hear those wheels turning in her head- gotta find a man.
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