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Old 01-13-2011, 01:40 PM
 
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SANTA ANA, Calif. -- Three and a half years ago, Kathleen Cooke was breathing easy. Having left her well-paying job for a new career as a teacher, she spent a blissful summer with her kids, sipping lemonade and baking cookies.

But within months, the life she had built evaporated. When she failed to secure a new job, she entered a steady downward spiral that eventually led her to a homeless shelter. Homelessness, once an abstract idea, had become real.

Homelessness In The Middle Class: Stable Families Reduced To Poverty
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:52 PM
 
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She quit her job; she's not a victim, she failed.

Geez, how stable are you if you quit a job with nothing to fall back on?
She wanted to play for the summer, well, she had responsibilities.

This is a problem of her very own making.
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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You don't even need to lose your job. All it takes is a chronic illness or any number of medical problems really.

Medical bills underlie 60 percent of U.S. bankrupts: study | Reuters
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:14 PM
 
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But that wasn't the case in the example he used.

Yes, people in the US vote against their own best interest.
As you posted, most bankruptcies in the US are related to medical bills, yet these people fight against universal health care.
Just wait until they lose everything and then they'll be the first to whine.
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:37 PM
 
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She quit her job; she's not a victim, she failed.

Geez, how stable are you if you quit a job with nothing to fall back on?
She wanted to play for the summer, well, she had responsibilities.

This is a problem of her very own making.
How much is enough to fall back on? I think one needs to realize this was 3.5 years ago BEFORE the recession was declared. Back in 2007 things weren't looking like they are now. Hindsight IS always 20/20. Also, she's at an age in which she grew up in an era where people could take off years to spend with their kids and still get back into the workforce. How was she to know?

Anyway, I left my job in 2009. I started in 2008. I quit after one day and they convinced me to stay on. I stayed on - HUGE MISTAKE ON MY PART. Back then jobs were easier to find but even taking that job really messed things up for me. Things are not always so cut and dried. I was turning into a nervous wreck and it just wasn't worth it, not to mention we were treated like crap and I feared an eventual termination for not meeting quota numbers (which was NOT part of the deal when I accepted the job).

I think we're seeing a real shift. Instead of blaming our fellow Americans, let's try blaming the greedy jerks who have outsourced our jobs.
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Heart of Oklahoma
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She quit her job; she's not a victim, she failed.

Geez, how stable are you if you quit a job with nothing to fall back on?
She wanted to play for the summer, well, she had responsibilities.

This is a problem of her very own making.
Agreed.
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:43 PM
 
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You don't even need to lose your job. All it takes is a chronic illness or any number of medical problems really.

Medical bills underlie 60 percent of U.S. bankrupts: study | Reuters
Need to print out this article and hand to those who insist I run from one doctor to another, and take kids from doctor to doctor, to satisfy some idea of theirs they want validated. They keep sayig oh, don't you nave insurance? Insurance isn't a blank check, it doesn't pay everything, with deductibles, copays, and denied claims we're in debt thousands just for medical, and we have insurance.

I'm sick of schools insisting I take my kids here and there for evaluations, etc, if they want it, let them pay for it, I'm not risking homelessness to satisfy some teacher or school's whim!
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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How much is enough to fall back on? I think one needs to realize this was 3.5 years ago BEFORE the recession was declared. Back in 2007 things weren't looking like they are now. Hindsight IS always 20/20. Also, she's at an age in which she grew up in an era where people could take off years to spend with their kids and still get back into the workforce. How was she to know?

Anyway, I left my job in 2009. I started in 2008. I quit after one day and they convinced me to stay on. I stayed on - HUGE MISTAKE ON MY PART. Back then jobs were easier to find but even taking that job really messed things up for me. Things are not always so cut and dried. I was turning into a nervous wreck and it just wasn't worth it, not to mention we were treated like crap and I feared an eventual termination for not meeting quota numbers (which was NOT part of the deal when I accepted the job).

I think we're seeing a real shift. Instead of blaming our fellow Americans, let's try blaming the greedy jerks who have outsourced our jobs.
She quit her job with nothing to fall back on to play with her kids for the summer.
If you have kids, you don't just assume you'll have a job when you go looking for it.
Really, how old was this person? If you have kids, you have greater responsibilities to care for them.
She should have known, she's not 16.

She was a teacher, her job wasn't outsourced.
Let's start asking people to provide a modicum of responsibility if they choose to breed.
Quit blaming others for stupid mistakes they made/make.
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Heart of Oklahoma
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How much is enough to fall back on? I think one needs to realize this was 3.5 years ago BEFORE the recession was declared. Back in 2007 things weren't looking like they are now. Hindsight IS always 20/20. Also, she's at an age in which she grew up in an era where people could take off years to spend with their kids and still get back into the workforce. How was she to know?

Anyway, I left my job in 2009. I started in 2008. I quit after one day and they convinced me to stay on. I stayed on - HUGE MISTAKE ON MY PART. Back then jobs were easier to find but even taking that job really messed things up for me. Things are not always so cut and dried. I was turning into a nervous wreck and it just wasn't worth it, not to mention we were treated like crap and I feared an eventual termination for not meeting quota numbers (which was NOT part of the deal when I accepted the job).

I think we're seeing a real shift. Instead of blaming our fellow Americans, let's try blaming the greedy jerks who have outsourced our jobs.
No, you blame who is to blame - which is yourself. It seems as if peer pressure got to you. Your initial gut reaction was to not take the job and yet you did after they "convinced" you to do so. So you left a year later, on your own terms. I only feel sorry for the people who had been with companies for more than 5 years who never saw a layoff coming. Those I can empathize with. Not the ones who just quit b/c they didn't like it. I mean, seriously? Who actually likes getting up at the same time doing the same damn thing everyday?
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:45 PM
 
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But that wasn't the case in the example he used.

Yes, people in the US vote against their own best interest.
As you posted, most bankruptcies in the US are related to medical bills, yet these people fight against universal health care.
Just wait until they lose everything and then they'll be the first to whine.
As you posted above, people have responsibilities.

Some people happen to think their health care is an individual responsibility.
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