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I don't think Marxism and liberalism are antagonistic at all. They both drink from the same well. Marxists may not think liberals have the courage of their convictions but that's a matter of practice rather than belief.
Liberal is the rebranded Progressive of the early 1900's. Progressive became a bad thing. Liberal was born as it has a nice ring. Progressive is the total opposite if liberal.
USA Progressive's, German Socialist and Russian Marxist were on the same page in the early 1900's.
After WW-II, Marxism in Russia was a bad thing. We called them Communist.
The German Socialist dictatorship was gone. We saw how bad that was and Russia was using the same control the Germans did to form the Nazi Party.
Rebranded long ago, to hide under the radar, the masks came off and Progressive has once again reared its ugly head. It is of the Marxist ideology. Many in this administration, admire Lenin and Mao.
Ya, that worked real we for the first settlers to this soil.
The collective first 3 years just about eliminated all of them.
The history of Thanksgiving, tells of the struggles to feed everyone for the first 3 years, until they were allowed private property to fend for each individual instead of the collective. They thrived after that. Everyone had to work to eat after private property.
You point is a) historically inaccurate. b) doesn't pertain to evolution.
Our species evolved socially into collective animals. I don't mean over the course of over a few hundred years.
Liberals have strongly opposed Christian Ceationist teachings and supported evolution.
Because evolution has evidence to support it, and Creationism does not, and moreover, it isn't science at all.
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If Liberals so strongly believe in Evolution,survival of the Fittest.
That's a gross oversimplication of evolution, and it's not a matter of belief. It's a matter of education. Do you "believe" in gravity? If you don't, do you fly off the Earth?
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Then why do Liberals support Survival of the Weakest through Social Services,food stamps,Section 8 and other entitlement programs???
Because Social Darwinism isn't the same thing as evolution. The first is a right-wing political theory, the second is actual science.
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If social services were scaled back wouldn't only the strong survive in society? Isn't this what evolution's end results are supposed to be?
If the rich don't take care of the poor, the poor will take care of the rich. The science of evolution doesn't necessarily apply to politics or human civilization. We may be animals biologically, but that does not mean we have to behave like animals, does it?
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Also wouldn't evolution eventually take care of or minimize the problems of the weakest and unfit (Darwinism) and those who made poor choices and continuosly do so(Social Dawinism) by drug/alcohol addiction,single mothers with multiple kids,absentee fathers,etc..?
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Liberals have strongly opposed Christian Ceationist teachings and supported evolution.
If Liberals so strongly believe in Evolution,survival of the Fittest.
Then why do Liberals support Survival of the Weakest through Social Services,food stamps,Section 8 and other entitlement programs???
If social services were scaled back wouldn't only the strong survive in society? Isn't this what evolution's end results are supposed to be?
Also wouldn't evolution eventually take care of or minimize the problems of the weakest and unfit (Darwinism) and those who made poor choices and continuosly do so(Social Dawinism) by drug/alcohol addiction,single mothers with multiple kids,absentee fathers,etc..?
What is the Sun? Some say it is a huge ball of gas, burning in the sky above. These men are scientists. I choose not to believe this. I believe it is the Eye of God.
Scientists say it, so it must not be true. Scientists say we evolved from a common ancestor. Obviously, this is hogwash. The earth is 6000 years old.
Liberals have strongly opposed Christian Ceationist teachings and supported evolution.
If Liberals so strongly believe in Evolution,survival of the Fittest.
Then why do Liberals support Survival of the Weakest through Social Services,food stamps,Section 8 and other entitlement programs???
If social services were scaled back wouldn't only the strong survive in society? Isn't this what evolution's end results are supposed to be?
Also wouldn't evolution eventually take care of or minimize the problems of the weakest and unfit (Darwinism) and those who made poor choices and continuosly do so(Social Dawinism) by drug/alcohol addiction,single mothers with multiple kids,absentee fathers,etc..?
That's - interesting, because as you can tell, Social Sevices, Foodstamps, Section 8 etc. etc. exist. So if you insist on adapting antarez' worldview (I suggest you don't), then liberals are forcing their will on those "stronger".
Which raises the question: Who is, in reality, the stronger part?
Liberals have strongly opposed Christian Ceationist teachings and supported evolution.
If Liberals so strongly believe in Evolution,survival of the Fittest.
Then why do Liberals support Survival of the Weakest through Social Services,food stamps,Section 8 and other entitlement programs???
If social services were scaled back wouldn't only the strong survive in society? Isn't this what evolution's end results are supposed to be?
This liberal supports a system that helps those who need some help.
Although it would make some people in this country very happy if those 'weak' members would just die, it could get very messy because so very many are hurting & cannot afford things like health care or food.
This thread is another of many liberal vs. conservative bait threads IMO.
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