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I never really understood this issue. Were gays excluded from the military? Or just told to keep it to themselves?
If it was the latter then what was the big deal? Wouldn't being openly gay in the military be ALOT harder than being in the closet? I've had family in the military and it doesn't seem like a place you'd want to be open about something like that. I see nothing wrong with telling someone to keep that quiet. In actuality it will make that persons stint in the military much more pleasant wouldn't you think?
Because a double standard existed. Straight people could openly discuss their private lives without fear of consequences while gay people had to lie or lie by omission.
Gay people didn't keep quiet because it was easier, they kept quietly because they would lose their job if they didn't.
Yes, gays and lesbians were legally excluded from the military. "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" tried to prevent witch-hunts, but if a person was discovered, s/he was still discharged.
The repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" isn't significant in and of itself. It's the legalization of gays and lesbians service members that is the real change.
Because a double standard existed. Straight people could openly discuss their private lives without fear of consequences while gay people had to lie or lie by omission.
Gay people didn't keep quiet because it was easier, they kept quietly because they would lose their job if they didn't.
It is a simple matter of civil rights.
What about the showers?
What do we do? Have a women's, men's, and gay/bi/lesbian shower? I just think it seems to complicate things no?
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What about the showers?
What do we do? Have a women's, men's, and gay/bi/lesbian shower? I just think it seems to complicate things no?
Are they gay people in the service now?
Are there gay showers now?
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Originally Posted by tpk-nyc
Yes, gays and lesbians were legally excluded from the military. "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" tried to prevent witch-hunts, but if a person was discovered, s/he was still discharged.
The repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" isn't significant in and of itself. It's really the legalization of gays and lesbians service members that is the real change.
And now you can't just walk into your commander's office, say "I'm gay!" and get a free out for that matter.
You used to could. Instant civilian.
I think it's great. People shouldn't have to hide who they are.
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Yes, gays and lesbians were legally excluded from the military. "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" tried to prevent witch-hunts, but if a person was discovered, s/he was still discharged.
The repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" isn't significant in and of itself. It's the legalization of gays and lesbians service members that is the real change.
OK. I have no problem with that. If a gay or lesbian wants to serve their country then they should be allowed to. I just think it would be easier for them to stay in the closet. The military isn't the most understanding environment.
Problems are minimal to non-existent. If the rest of the world can manage I don't see why the USA should have problems.
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