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ok then, i'll be curious how this pans out over the next couple days/weeks.
i find one thing funny tho. mike evans, the reporter who is making the claim, was born in honolulu. if he requests an official copy of his birth certificate he will receive........ a hawaiian COLB.
He would be able to get a copy of HIS LF.
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude
They can't.
QED... they actually do have his original birth certificate.
There can't.
QED... there is a "long form."
I haven't heard that at all, in fact, now that Abercrombie has opened the can of worms, I sincerely doubt there is a LF.
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude
I have seen the birth certificate online. It's been there for more than 2 and 1/2 years.
No one is referring to the short form, this whole mess is about the actual long form birth document, complete with signatures, dates, doctor, etc.
No, it's not.
Birthers would very much like to move the goal posts and make it about the "long form," because they have no actual response to the fact the COLB absolutely legally settles the issue in every conceivable legitimate venue.
If Birthers were honest and it was actually even about eligibility for the Presidency.... something that has nothing to do with hospitals, or doctors, or signatures, or college transcripts... they would have admitted in June of 2008 that the COLB is what it is; proof of Obama's status as an NBC.
But all it really is is an attempt by people who hate this President to get some court to allow them to go on a fishing expedition for embarrassing nuggets in his private records.
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If a simple signed release by the president would silence all his critics, and make them look like fools, why doesn't he just do it?
Several reasons, but the one relevant to the question as it was asked is that they already look like fools.
under this criteria, every president of the united states would have been ineligible with the exception of four ( carter, clinton, g.w. bush and obama ). but then again, none of those four have released a form to the public containing a doctor's signature and name of a hospital.
Actually... only three. Bill Clinton was born in his home, not a hospital.
Actually... only three. Bill Clinton was born in his home, not a hospital.
there seems to be a bit of confusion over the fact that the house that clinton spent the first four years of his life is called the "President William Jefferson Clinton Birthplace Home National Historic Site" but all the info i've found to date lists clinton being born at julia chester hospital in hope arkansas.
there seems to be a bit of confusion over the fact that the house that clinton spent the first four years of his life is called the "President William Jefferson Clinton Birthplace Home National Historic Site" but all the info i've found to date lists clinton being born at julia chester hospital in hope arkansas.
I stand completely corrected. His own autobiography (My Life) says:
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"Early on the morning of August 19, 1946, I was born under a clear sky after a violent summer storm to a widowed mother in the Julia Chester Hospital in Hope, a town of about six thousand in southwest Arkansas, thirty-three miles east of the Texas border at Texarkana."
You are correct sir!
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