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Why do you feel sorry for them? Those type of people aren't usually looking to find a corporate office job for the time being anyhow--they're often just looking to just have fun for a few more years playing music and going out at night to see shows and get laid. And the world needs underemployed people to serve my food, coffee, and drinks as well.
Portland would be my absolute last destination for getting laid. Have you seen the chicks there? They are some of the most unimpressive of any metro in America. A chick in the 90th percentile for hotness in Portland would not even be in the 40th percentile in Miami, LA, or Manhattan.
If partying and getting laid is your primary goal out of college, you are MUCH better off in one of the above three cities, along with Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale, Vegas, or New Orleans. NOT Portland or Seattle.
I still can't figure out why those two cities are so popular among young people who just want to have fun and live in a "cool" place after college. Good weather and good looking chicks, at least to me, are pretty damn important for living a "fun" lifestyle. Portland and Seattle are about as bad as you can get on both fronts.
I think that if you can't have fun in either a "liberal" or a "conservative" city regardless of your political or social beliefs, then you're too wrapped up in your own head. I've met MANY ultra conservative tourists (some from my own family) in Boston who had a blast while visiting. Would they move here? Not in 100 million years. However, they had a ton of fun while they visited.
On the same token, I've enjoyed my trips to "conservative" cities like Dallas, Kansas City, Nashville, etc. (I'm pretty liberal). I met a lot of people who were very different from me and did things I wouldn't ever get to do at home. Even little things like sitting in a gas station near downtown Dallas on the tailgate of a truck eating gas station tacos (not the freezer type... but authentic tacos from a real tacos stand in the station) and drinking a tallboy watching alpacas (or something like that) walk around a field behind me. You don't have to overhaul your own beliefs in order to enjoy visiting a different type of city. But it is good to humanize and put into perspective the people that see things differently or have different beliefs than you. Part of the reason these little debates we have get so petty is that too many people are too closed off to even attempt to see how someone could see things differently. It's much easier to call them "idiots" and move on.
Worse than being very liberal or very conservative is being close minded. If you can't have fun in a major city that leans in the opposite direction of your political stance, then the problem is you. Not the city.
Portland would be my absolute last destination for getting laid. Have you seen the chicks there? They are some of the most unimpressive of any metro in America. A chick in the 90th percentile for hotness in Portland would not even be in the 40th percentile in Miami, LA, or Manhattan.
If partying and getting laid is your primary goal out of college, you are MUCH better off in one of the above three cities, along with Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale, Vegas, or New Orleans. NOT Portland or Seattle.
I still can't figure out why those two cities are so popular among young people who just want to have fun and live in a "cool" place after college. Good weather and good looking chicks, at least to me, are pretty damn important for living a "fun" lifestyle. Portland and Seattle are about as bad as you can get on both fronts.
You should tell all the young people moving to Portland and Seattle from the East Coast and Midwest that they should stop moving to the Northwest.
I would've loved to move to New Orleans in my twenties, but I never saw any opportunitiy for decent paying jobs for me there when I've looked over the last decade...
You should tell all the young people moving to Portland and Seattle from the East Coast and Midwest that they should stop moving to the Northwest.
I would've loved to move to New Orleans in my twenties, but I never saw any opportunitiy for decent paying jobs for me there when I've looked over the last decade...
Uh.. most of Seattle's growth is immigration. In fact, based on this map, maybe you should tell people in PacNW to stop moving to the east coast.
Tell it to the poster who said Portland and Seattle were so popular among young people and he couldn't understand why.
I could give really give less of a f**k...
Meh.. I don't have any problem with Seattle. I see it at Philly's nerdy little brother. I'm opinionless on Portland, but if the girls are as ugly as the other dude says, I don't want to be there
Meh.. I don't have any problem with Seattle. I see it at Philly's nerdy little brother. I'm opinionless on Portland, but if the girls are as ugly as the other dude says, I don't want to be there
I'm sure in neither Portland or Seattle are they as good looking nor is there as much going on as in Reading, Pennsylvania...
Uh.. most of Seattle's growth is immigration. In fact, based on this map, maybe you should tell people in PacNW to stop moving to the east coast.
I don't think that map means what you think it means. There is not a mass migration from Seattle to the East Coast. In fact, last I saw, New York and New Jersey are losing population. But if you're trying to start a trend, don't let me stop you.
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