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Old 01-28-2011, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Himalayan glaciers not melting because of climate change, report finds - Telegraph

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The discovery adds a new twist to the row over whether global warming is causing the world's highest mountain range to lose its ice cover.

It further challenges claims made in a 2007 report by the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that the glaciers would be gone by 2035.


Although the head of the panel Dr Rajendra Pachauri later admitted the claim was an error gleaned from unchecked research, he maintained that global warming was melting the glaciers at "a rapid rate", threatening floods throughout north India.
To be honest, I'm unconvinced either way on AGW. However, the proponents of that theory would be a lot more convincing if they would do some basic fact checking before jumping into fear-monger mode. Another great example of what happens when politics trumps science.
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Old 01-28-2011, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Paging Al Gore...
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Old 01-28-2011, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Don't be a cry baby!
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the proponents of that theory would be a lot more convincing if they would do some basic fact checking before jumping into fear-monger mode.
The Earth, relative to humans, is quite old. Roughly 4 billion years old. I find it tough to calculate the percentage of time humans have been in existence relative to the earth's age, I think it’s near .000000000004%. You can’t even count to 4 billion in a day’s time.
My point is, there are so many variables, known and unknown, which make predicting local weather a challenge. Now we have a team of politically funded scientist who can magically predict future weather? Then to add stupidity to ignorance clam that "It's settled science!"

Do people affect the Earths weather? Sure, so does a moth fart! Only someone as arrogant as Al Gore and Barry think we can control it.
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Old 01-28-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Himalayan glaciers not melting because of climate change, report finds - Telegraph



To be honest, I'm unconvinced either way on AGW. However, the proponents of that theory would be a lot more convincing if they would do some basic fact checking before jumping into fear-monger mode. Another great example of what happens when politics trumps science.
Between fear and denial, my preference would be the former for a simple reason. I believe in being safe than sorry. Having said that, your source has conveniently ignored a fact mentioned in that study, likely out of inconvenience.

According to the study the article uses, 58% of the glaciers studied in the Karakoram have been stable or have advanced (safe to conclude that 42% have retreated among the glaciers that were studied). The author of the article took this part of the study and ran with it.

Also in the study is a conclusion that 65% of the glaciers elsewhere in the Himalayas have been retreating. And in fact, this statement:

“Overall in the Himalayas, the glaciers are retreating”
- Dirk Scherler, the lead author at the University of Potsdam in Germany

Let us not make it sound like that they are actually advancing.
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