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I have no interest in hijacking the thread to debate health care politics. Personally, I responded to a poster and leave it at that. Health care comparisons are certainly a hot point in the whole societal comparisons and debate but of course not the only thing.
Mention of university system is useful. Except for the fact, in my opinion, that we have an unprecedented number of young employable citizens now entering the job market with thousands of dollars of debt, regardless of whether they went to Harvard or Colorado State. I hope nobody tries to personally debate me on this issue because it is not my personal opinion or gripe but really just a basic truth. When you have scores of new graduates all across the country armed with a new degree and lots of debt and then facing extreme competition, sometimes for jobs that will not even really permit them to pay off their debt and also take care of basic monthly needs- its a problem.
Europe certainly does have a great transport system, for the most part, I agree. Some regions have a dominant car culture, just like parts of the US, but clearly many regions have been working for decades with creating very user friendly and well integrated subways, streetcar systems and bus systems.
Wow, I hear you on the student loan debt. We are mid 40s, and I just paid my wife's off this year. I still owe about $7k in mine. I did not really borrow that much, but I will agree, it did pose a substantial burden in early to midcareer at our modest salaries, and with mortgage, child care, etc. My solution. Never buy a new car. I have been driving for 30 years, and I never have. You are right that graduating deep in debt in a tough economy is a new and increasingly important issue. Nor sure how other countries compare.
Wow, I hear you on the student loan debt. We are mid 40s, and I just paid my wife's off this year. I still owe about $7k in mine. I did not really borrow that much, but I will agree, it did pose a substantial burden in early to midcareer at our modest salaries, and with mortgage, child care, etc. My solution. Never buy a new car. I have been driving for 30 years, and I never have. You are right that graduating deep in debt in a tough economy is a new and increasingly important issue. Nor sure how other countries compare.
Well, I am big on public transportation and spent my entire 20's using it in various US cities, so I have not experienced the car question until recently, when it became absolutely essential. But good tips.
I don't know how other countries compare either. I realize it is not really fair to compare the US university system, which attracts students from all over the globe, for good reason, to other systems such as the largely tuition free University programs in Scandinavia or, to some degree, Germany. These systems are slowly being reformed themselves, and with the differences in population and tax systems, its simply not fair to compare them I suppose. There are excellent university systems in America, but it is also important to remember the whole higher education system is an economic engine that profits on all the student debt. I just feel there must come a reform eventually, though I have no idea what.
Is Canada telling us not to go for health care reform, or is that just one Canadian doctor's opinion?
From the article you linked to...
Quote:
The medical profession as a whole in Canada has been calling for changes to make the system here more effective and affordable, but a recent Canadian Medical Association report made it clear the group is still committed to the basics, at least, of public health care.
All one really needs to do is read the "Legal Immigration" forum to get an idea of this. Remember when everyone wanted to come to the US? Not so much anymore.
A good example of liberalism is the country Oceana as described in the book 1984 by George Orwell
Double yawn.
I hope for your sake that you are being sarcastic. If you truly believe this is liberalism in action then certainly, the education system is failing some of its citizens in disastrous ways.
Many citizens of these countries would likely read just pure stupidity, and offense, into your haphazard laughing at them as "liberalism" examples.
I'm surprised it went almost three pages before some ignorant right wing post.
While ignorant right wing posts are perhaps best left ignored and unreplied to, I also feel there are moments where they need to be dealt with head on. Its a new form of "special needs education"- dealing with ignorant right wing posters who truly need a mental helmet, imo. They just keep bashing and bashing but their faculties don't ever seem to get so disturbed that they just stop.
I'm surprised it went almost three pages before some ignorant right wing post.
And then Americans wonder why they've become the laughingstock by the rest of the world
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