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If you attend a gun show in ANY State and you purchase through an FFL dealer, you have to complete a 4473 and dealers are encouraged to run the buyer through a NICS check. There is no way around the 4473 with a FFL holder.
Right, that's through a licensed firearms dealer. It's the private sellers at gun shows who are the potential problem.
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Again, responsible firearms owners don't play by the rules that are being layed out here. They have a sense of pride (for lack of a better word) to not
do anything to tarnish the rights of the 2A.
The ones who would sell to any average joe, could careless about any laws, regulations etc.....and you will never be able to legislate morality. And that is what it boils down to.
I would really like to think that you're correct, but I'm afraid I don't have quite that much faith in my fellow man. And the people who fit your admirable definition of "responsible firearms owners" I fear are fewer than you think.
Such laws only impact the law abiding. The criminals would continue to buy and sell when and where and how they wish, and you'd never know about it. I could go out right now and sell a gun to someone if I wanted to, and who would know I did it? You can't have police watching our every move, so such a law would be worthless.
That's why a complete registry would help. It would not solve every problem, of course, but it would make a huge impact. If you own a gun that is registered to you, and you sold it to someone who then committed a crime with it, the police would come to you to find out how the gun left your possession. If you'd reported it stolen, well, that's one thing. But if you didn't, then you'd be needing to provide information on the buyer. In this scenario, the buyer you named would be the lawbreaker, for failing to register their legally acquired firearm, separate from any charges for actually using it ... maybe they gave it to their girlfriend, whose roommate's boyfriend took it and robbed a store. The point is to be able to track it, and deal appropriately with the situations that present themselves.
That's why a complete registry would help. It would not solve every problem, of course, but it would make a huge impact. If you own a gun that is registered to you, and you sold it to someone who then committed a crime with it, the police would come to you to find out how the gun left your possession. If you'd reported it stolen, well, that's one thing. But if you didn't, then you'd be needing to provide information on the buyer. In this scenario, the buyer you named would be the lawbreaker, for failing to register their legally acquired firearm, separate from any charges for actually using it ... maybe they gave it to their girlfriend, whose roommate's boyfriend took it and robbed a store. The point is to be able to track it, and deal appropriately with the situations that present themselves.
What about the ones that come through customs or across the border unannounced? What if they were lost in a "tragic boating accident"? Must I report that too? Get real.
You don't have a right to instantaneous gun ownership. The only time-sensitive right you have is a "speedy trial", and speedy may be months.
That a system has problems is not necessarily a reason to get rid of the system. How can we improve it?
"Shall not be infringed" means what it says. A delay, if someone is getting a gun for immediate protection against some dangerous person, could be deadly.
That's your opinion, and fortunately one that the courts do not agree with based on their interpretation of "shall not be infringed"
The courts do say that you have to pass a background check. If that check takes time, you do not have the gun in hand, right? It's a right that is contingent on your qualification, or the lack of disqualification to exercise it.
That's why a complete registry would help. It would not solve every problem, of course, but it would make a huge impact. If you own a gun that is registered to you, and you sold it to someone who then committed a crime with it, the police would come to you to find out how the gun left your possession. If you'd reported it stolen, well, that's one thing. But if you didn't, then you'd be needing to provide information on the buyer. In this scenario, the buyer you named would be the lawbreaker, for failing to register their legally acquired firearm, separate from any charges for actually using it ... maybe they gave it to their girlfriend, whose roommate's boyfriend took it and robbed a store. The point is to be able to track it, and deal appropriately with the situations that present themselves.
And you think the criminals will register their guns? That's laughable.
I can make my own guns too, if needed, as can many people.
The courts do say that you have to pass a background check. If that check takes time, you do not have the gun in hand, right? It's a right that is contingent on your qualification, or the lack of disqualification to exercise it.
They never said you have to pass a background check. They did throw out laws that are burdensome and time consuming.
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