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Old 02-02-2011, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Near the water
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Of course the NRA is against a gun registry, anything that holds gun owners responsible for things tht happen with their guns they are against.
You are so in left field....first of all what you said makes no sense....BUT.......
responsible gun owners tend to their business, that is the part that you aren't getting. It isn't the responsible gun owners that you have to worry about. The NRA does nothing but advocate for responsible, lawful gun possession.

You really need to do some research, reading and meet face to face with gun owners and advocates. Go spend some time in a local dealer. You will find that crow doesn't taste to well.
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:49 PM
 
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No, I just don't equate the U.S to Nazi Germany. I used Beck as an example because he loves to use the inane Nazi comparisons.
So I should refrain from using any historical evidence you personally disagree with?

Fine, generically speaking people (and governments in particular) have a long and storied history of ultimately abusing powers given to them. Their (government's) ultimate concern is with their own survival and further empowerment.

Enhancing that power to serve no purpose other than temporarily placating a group that will be bleating for more protection as soon as the last batch of surrendered rights is proven to have produced no increase in safety is utterly asinine.

Try something different...find some courage and accept a bit of personal responsibility for your own safety and well being. Ultimately government will protect government. Aside from getting your vote the majority of those in power could care less about you.
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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You are so in left field....first of all what you said makes no sense....BUT.......
responsible gun owners tend to their business, that is the part that you aren't getting. It isn't the responsible gun owners that you have to worry about. The NRA does nothing but advocate for responsible, lawful gun possession.

You really need to do some research, reading and meet face to face with gun owners and advocates. Go spend some time in a local dealer. You will find that crow doesn't taste to well.
Most of the guns used in crimes, were originally legally purchased guns and then sold on the black market.

Gun registry does not harm responsible gun owners in any way shape or form, the purpose would be to target irresponsible gun owners who sell their legally purchased guns and make them responsible if they are used in a crime. Not having the registry protects the irresponsible gun owners.
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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So I should refrain from using any historical evidence you personally disagree with?

Fine, generically speaking people (and governments in particular) have a long and storied history of ultimately abusing powers given to them. Their (government's) ultimate concern is with their own survival and further empowerment.

Enhancing that power to serve no purpose other than temporarily placating a group that will be bleating for more protection as soon as the last batch of surrendered rights is proven to have produced no increase in safety is utterly asinine.

Try something different...find some courage and accept a bit of personal responsibility for your own safety and well being. Ultimately government will protect government. Aside from getting your vote the majority of those in power could care less about you.
Using the Nazi's did it so you should be scared of it being done here is nothing other than propaganda, scare tactics and conspiracy theory.
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:56 PM
 
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Using the Nazi's did it so you should be scared of it being done here is nothing other than propaganda, scare tactics and conspiracy theory.
It wasn't just the Nazis. Your use of "conspiracy theory" is about as trite and cliche as can be. Nowhere did I cite any conspiracy.
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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It wasn't just the Nazis. Your use of "conspiracy theory" is about as trite and cliche as can be. Nowhere did I cite any conspiracy.
The fear that the guns would be confiscated in the U.S because the Nazi's did it is conspiracy theory....
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Near the water
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Most of the guns used in crimes, were originally legally purchased guns and then sold on the black market.

Gun registry does not harm responsible gun owners in any way shape or form, the purpose would be to target irresponsible gun owners who sell their legally purchased guns and make them responsible if they are used in a crime. Not having the registry protects the irresponsible gun owners.

I don't know where you get this information from. But again, a gun registry will not do a bit of good....if a home of a responsible firearm owner is broken into and a firearm is stolen and gets on the blackmarket or in the posession of some thug that is not because of an irresponsible firearm owner. Their home was broken into. You have no valid point here.......
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I don't know where you get this information from. But again, a gun registry will not do a bit of good....if a home of a responsible firearm owner is broken into and a firearm is stolen and gets on the blackmarket or in the posession of some thug that is not because of an irresponsible firearm owner. Their home was broken into. You have no valid point here.......
Well of course there would be exceptions if something was stolen.
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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The fear that the guns would be confiscated in the U.S because the Nazi's did it is conspiracy theory....
Try again. Who are the conspirators? There was no insinuation of a shadowy group lurking in the wings.

It was a simple historical reference to the fact that government when allowed too much power has an established history of turning on it's citizens.

If you have a major problem with that historical reference feel free to substitute Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Mussoilini or any of a host of others for the Nazis.

You're attempting to use a trite dismissal based on nothing other than personal beliefs. History does not support your claims. Conspiracy has nothing to do with it.
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:08 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Registration of guns does not = confiscating. Sorry I'm not delusional enough to believe that the U.S is Nazi Germany, no matter how much Glenn Beck thinks it is.
Registration did indeed equal confiscation in California.
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