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Congress is not being secretive about it. They are not doing it in a vacuum.
The press is just not announcing it. And people don't bother following what the government does.
They follow what the MSM tells them.
It's expanded by interpretation and practice all across the political spectrum. And you don't hear the Republican party say it needs to be abolished, or the Democrats, or the liberals or the conservatives.... it has become instutionalized and is deemed "useful".
Ron Paul is a voice in the political wilderness unfortunately.
Frontline on PBS (bless them) did a program on the career of Dick Cheney some 3 years ago, and one of the main things they pointed out was that no one since FDR did more to consolidate power into the Executive Branch than Dick Cheney and the Bush administration.
When I first started on this forum back when, I pointed out to those who at the time supported the Bush administrations consolidation of power as a sound means of combating terrorism, that at some point, George Bush would no longer be in office. Chances are there will be someone of an opposition party, as it was a very partisan issue at the time. I was dismissed and scoffed at, then Obama got elected and overnight, charges of infringement of rights were shouted over the walls.
As you point out, it doesn't matter what party the President is, it matters that any President is going to enjoy those consolidated powers and Obama has done little in regards to rejecting Bush and Cheney's efforts. If people want to point to this party or that, I think they are wasting their effort on what should be citizens v government instead of left v right.
Patriot Act is draconian old Soviet styled bang the door down and I for one would love to see it gone forever and looked at as the stain against democracy it is.
So why are we sitting here on City-Data instead of having tea-party like protest against this thing. I would be right there with you.
"Oh Yeah"
"I know why"
There is no Corporate money for bus-rides.
There is no Faux News Channel Chearleading against the Patriot act.
THere is no Dick Army and Freedom works--WHERE ARE THEY ON THIS ISSUE HUH?
No Koch Brothers Money.
No slimy half-white half-African dude to soothe our fears with an eloquent teleprompted speech.
Nope nothing here but OUR OWN IGNORANCE STUPIDITY AND COWARDICE!!!!
Nothing to see here folks MOVE ALONG.
If you put a Hitler mustache on an Obama picture with references made to his complicity to the Patriot Act I think black folk wouldnt be so offended (i know I wouldnt). Context goes a long way! Of course some of yall just hate black folk lol.
But back to the point!!! Down with the Patriot act we can argue the BS some other time.
Obviously most of the American people because the repubs and dems in Congress keep it going.
Have you ever heard, "When you keep your cool and every one else looses theirs, maybe you haven't grasped the situaion"?
Yes, because we all know politicians always vote in the best interests of their constituency and never seek to expand their power base at it's expense.
I think it's you who hasn't grasped the situation.
Yes, because we all know politicians always vote in the best interests of their constituency and never seek to expand their power base at it's expense.
I think it's you who hasn't grasped the situation.
“Of course, there is no doubt that if we lived in a police state, it would be easier to catch terrorists. If we lived in a country that allowed the police to search your home at any time for any reason; if we lived in a country that allowed the government to open your mail, eavesdrop on your phone conversations, or intercept your email communications; if we lived in a country that allowed the government to hold people in jail indefinitely based on what they write or think, or based on mere suspicion that they are up to no good, then the government would no doubt discover and arrest more terrorists. But that probably would not be a country in which we would want to live. And that would not be a country for which we could, in good conscience, ask our young people to fight and die. In short, that would not be America.”– Senator Russ Feingold D-WI Oct. 25, 2001
Feingold was the lone voice of dissent in the senate at the time and has since been replaced by a Tea Party backed Republican who supports the act.
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It appears so.
