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Old 02-06-2011, 04:23 PM
 
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Similarly, Barry Jabbar Sykes, 37, who has a degree in mathematics from Morehouse College, a historically black college in Atlanta, now uses Barry J. Sykes in his continuing search for an information technology position, even though he has gone by Jabbar his whole life.

“Barry sounds like I could be from Ireland,” he said.

That race remains a serious obstacle in the job market for African-Americans, even those with degrees from respected colleges, may seem to some people a jarring contrast to decades of progress by blacks, culminating in President Obama’s election.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/01/us/01race.html
Is there anything these men are doing wrong? I find this interesting because since Obama got elected many have acted as if having a Black man getting elected president would translate into more job opportunities for Black men in other professions. Maybe it's not that simple.
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Old 02-06-2011, 04:26 PM
 
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Is there anything these men are doing wrong? I find this interesting because since Obama got elected many have acted as if having a Black man getting elected president would translate into more job opportunities for Black men in other professions. Maybe it's not that simple.
Bologna.
It's dog eat dog out there for everyone, black men are not a special class.
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Old 02-06-2011, 04:34 PM
 
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Bologna.
It's dog eat dog out there for everyone, black men are not a special class.
Why do these Black men feel the need to alter their names and make an effort to come off as non threatening? Is the need for these adjustments just in their heads?
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Old 02-06-2011, 04:57 PM
 
Location: You Ta Zhou
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To me, it seems like he's having trouble just like many other recent graduates finding a job. He seems to have decided that his name is the problem without any real evidence supporting that view.
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:06 PM
 
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Tim Wise covered this problem in his books.
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:10 PM
 
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To me, it seems like he's having trouble just like many other recent graduates finding a job. He seems to have decided that his name is the problem without any real evidence supporting that view.


I know a man in his early fifties, great shape, but his hair is completely white/grey.

He has historically had much better success obtaining employment when he dyes his hair.

Things are tough all over.
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:11 PM
 
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Bologna.
It's dog eat dog out there for everyone, black men are not a special class.
Exactly. Why attempt to start a controversy? Why pull out the old race card?
It's a tough economy for everyone not just blacks.
Are you saying they should get hired because they are black?
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:23 PM
 
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To me, it seems like he's having trouble just like many other recent graduates finding a job. He seems to have decided that his name is the problem without any real evidence supporting that view.

This real enough for you?

http://www.princeton.edu/~pager/annals_sequencingdisadvantage.pdf



White male convicts are almost exactly as likely to find a job as black men with no record and the same qualifications otherwise. Why do you suppose that is?


And my own Dad had to go a step further and switch his middle name for his first name. Consequentially, he had more success getting hired
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:26 PM
 
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To me, it seems like he's having trouble just like many other recent graduates finding a job. He seems to have decided that his name is the problem without any real evidence supporting that view.
Well there have been some studies on this.


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Studies of resumes have found that people with black-sounding names are less likely to get callbacks.

Top 20 'Whitest' and 'Blackest' Names - ABC News
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:28 PM
 
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I can't believe the OP actually asked the question what has changed for black college graduates.
Maybe if they would have asked what has changed for college graduates. But even still have they not seen what is happening to our economy and the jobless rates?

It's tough all over. Or as my favorite bald-headed devil from New Orleans once stated: It's the economy stupid!
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