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Old 02-18-2011, 09:14 PM
 
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So a teacher in a safe, cookie cutter, suburban school district is above the level of a cop working in dangerous, gang/crime/drug infested inner cities?
Teachers work in very unsafe environments, very badly paid, unappreciated and expected to produce a well educated taxpaying citizen. What they still do despite is well worth admiration.
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Old 02-18-2011, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Teachers have been riding the gravy train for a long time now: great pay and superb government benefits for only 9 months work per year--well, actually about 8 if you count-up all the holidays they get off. Also, they don't even need more than a bachelor's degree, and it doesn't even have to be in Education in some states. What other job offers good pay and killer bennies for a profession whose clients (students) are in session only 180 days a year?
Times are tough, many of us have to tighten our belts. Why do these teachers think they are some sort of sacred cows who should be spared from sacrificing a bit like many others are?
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Old 02-18-2011, 09:23 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Teachers work in very unsafe environments, very badly paid, unappreciated and expected to produce a well educated taxpaying citizen. What they still do despite is well worth admiration.
Many of the suburban environments are very safe. What are you talking about? Sure there's the occasional fight and there's times when situations might get out of control, but that is the exception, not the norm. I understand it is tough to control a room full of students, but if you're unable to, perhaps you should consider a new career. I've always had great respect for teachers who were strict, didn't take crap, and had the class under control. Couldn't stand the softies.

In high school I had a history teacher who gave us maybe ten lectures the whole year. Otherwise he just sat at his computer or turned on MSNBC (no joke!). There were even a few times he simply didn't show up to class. Other times we would go to another classroom so he can have lunch and chat with another teacher who was on her lunch break. Even the head of the history department realized what a joke the guy was, but tenure kept anything from happening. Last year when New Jersey cut education funding, a couple young, well-respected teachers were fired while he kept his job. Current salary is $90,000. I certainly hope others didn't have such blatant experiences.
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Old 02-18-2011, 09:25 PM
 
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Teachers have been riding the gravy train for a long time now: great pay and superb government benefits for only 9 months work per year--well, actually about 8 if you count-up all the holidays they get off. Also, they don't even need more than a bachelor's degree, and it doesn't even have to be in Education in some states. What other job offers good pay and killer bennies for a profession whose clients (students) are in session only 180 days a year?
Times are tough, many of us have to tighten our belts. Why do these teachers think they are some sort of sacred cows who should be spared from sacrificing a bit like many others are?
Teachers are the ones teaching the future generation of citizens. It's the foundation of a country's future.

Any enlightened nation should worship The Teacher.
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Old 02-18-2011, 09:25 PM
 
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Neither is a teacher in a local school district. However, it is a state law about collective bargaining that the gov. wants to change.
You're right... but it's the state that is contributing to salaries and bennies... not so for the local cop. They have their own local unions. State can't touch them.
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Old 02-18-2011, 09:28 PM
 
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Teachers are the ones teaching the future generation of citizens. It's the foundation of a country's future.

Any enlightened nation should worship The Teacher.
Oh, please.
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Old 02-18-2011, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Teachers are the ones teaching the future generation of citizens. It's the foundation of a country's future.

Any enlightened nation should worship The Teacher.
They do. In other countries a teacher is very well respected by both the student and the student's parents.


America is winning the Race to the Bottom.
We're turning on ourselves with our greed, corruption and "me, me" mentality.
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Old 02-18-2011, 09:30 PM
 
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Oh, please.
Oh, please what?
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Old 02-18-2011, 09:34 PM
 
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Default WI Governor: Time To Play Hardball

Let’s play hardball.
“The protesters have every right to have their voices heard, but I’m not going to be intimidated into thinking I should ignore the voices of the five-and-a-half million taxpayers,” said Republican Gov. Scott Walker…
With no end to the standoff in sight, Gov. Walker said that if the Democratic senators do not return, he’d consider cutting the funding that pays for their staff.
“If they’re not here, it begs the question whether or not they need to have staff,” he said. “They’re not performing their functions.”


Meanwhile, recall petitions are being launched against some of the fugitive Democrats.
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Old 02-18-2011, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Go for it.
Next..the striking teachers.
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