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Old 02-20-2011, 08:45 PM
 
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What a lying sack of ****. Anyone who was paying attention and had half a brain knew Iraq was no threat and had no WMDs.
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Old 02-20-2011, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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What a lying sack of ****. Anyone who was paying attention and had half a brain knew Iraq was no threat and had no WMDs.
Until they carted out Colin Powell because of his reputation, and made him lie in front of the U.N.

My former boss was one of the morons who actually believed when Powell was pointing to random building rooftops in the desert, that those were really storage facilities for WMD. I looked at him and told him he was an idiot to fall for that (perhaps not in those exact words). There was literally not one shred of evidence showing those buildings in the desert were anything but buildings in the desert.

I don't think he liked when I turned out to be right.
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Until they carted out Colin Powell because of his reputation, and made him lie in front of the U.N.
Except...that never happened. In fact, the Senate investigation, the world's intelligence agencies, the UN, UN inspectors, Europe, Arab nations, etc, etc thought he had WMD as well.

No lies, just incorrect intelligence.

Here's Rummy, telling us that Powell was not "duped" or anything else.

http://www.rolandsmartin.com/blog/in...was-not-duped/

Gosh, just look at that sour face from Diane.

Yeah, I remember about our soldiers rolling into Iraq, closing in on Bagdad, having to don those chemical weapons suits....don't you all remember that?

Now, I wonder why they would do that if they didn't think he had chemical weapons.
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Old 02-21-2011, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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If you believe that "spin" you should see the bridge I have for sale, in Brooklyn.

There is no justification, in logic, law or the constitution for a pre-emptive invasion, as what was done in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The "Powers that be" ordered their puppets in office to do such a nefarious task, and used the world's greatest propaganda ministry to distract the masses.

GWB or BHO, it matters little, when the government is a wholly owned subsidiary of the international financiers (aka "usurers").

In case you weren't informed, the U.S. Governor of the "Bank" and "Fund" is our friend, the Secretary of TREASURY. And he shall NOT be paid by the U.S. government, Title 22 USC Sec. 286a. He shall be paid by the fiduciary agent for "The Fund", the Federal Reserve corporation. (Uh oh!)

Title 22 USC Sec. 286. The President is hereby authorized to accept membership for the United States in the International Monetary Fund (hereinafter referred to as the "Fund"), and in the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (hereinafter referred to as the "Bank"), provided for by the Articles of Agreement of the Fund and the Articles of Agreement of the Bank as set forth in the Final Act of the United Nations Monetary and Financial Conference dated July 22, 1944, and deposited in the archives of the Department of State.

(a) Governors and executive directors; term of office
(d) Compensation for services
(1) No person shall be entitled to receive any salary or other compensation from the United States for services as a Governor, executive director, councillor, alternate, or associate.

According to page 494 of the U.S. Government Manual, 1993/1994 edition:
"In addition , the Secretary (of Treasury) has many responsibilities as chief financial officer of the Government. The Secretary serves as Chairman pro tempore of the Economic Policy council and as U.S. Governor of the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the Inter-American Development Bank, and the African Development Bank."
The president picks the "U.S. governor" but the government does not pay him.
Guess who he really works for?
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:11 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Nah, they wanted war and if they'd not had WMD as an excuse, they would have located another rationale.

So while Rumsfeld will say whatever is expedient, it would be interesting to see some sort of reaction from his White Knights - be it the "WMDs weren't that important" crowd or "We did too find WMD" team or the always-popular "All the WMD were moved to Syria" subgroup. (I expect the "Democrats believed it too" contingent any minute now.)



We should have taken Hussein's word for it?
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:15 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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Too bad we didn't rise up as a nation and demand these answers before we allowed our government to illegally invade a sovereign nation under false pretenses.
The Bush Administration learned from history.

LBJ lied about the Goulf of Tonkin and got us in Vietnam. No one said a peep. (until years later).

Clinton lied about Bosnia. No one said a peep.

Clinton lied about Kosovo. No one said a peep.

Clinton lied about Iraq. No one said a peep.

I reckon the Bushies figured if the Democrats can lie about going to war, so can we.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:19 AM
 
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We should have taken Hussein's word for it?
You should have done your goddamn homework and made sure before invading. The fact that one really bad source with his own agenda (Curveball) colored the intelligence material shows an embarrassing lack of professionalism.

Alternately, you could have stopped and listened to the inspectors when they made it increasingly clear that the US intelligence information on WMD was so much crap.

Rumsfeld is embodying the neocon way of handling mistakes - the one where you agree to take the responsibility, as long as nobody dares hint that some actual blame attaches to it, or - heaven forbid - that there should be consequences.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Seems pretty straight forward and honest to me.
Two Things:

1) Remove blinders

2) Look again

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Old 02-21-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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We should have taken Hussein's word for it?
It was apparently as believeable as any other source we used
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Except for the part that the UN Inspectors said there were none he sounds almost sober. He is admitting to Waging Aggressive Warfare, a Crime under the Nuremberg Doctrine. Every day that he has not been indicted the United States is complicit in his War Crimes.
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