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Old 02-22-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Between Seattle and Portland
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Fed up with what he views as crappy treatment from the TSA, the owner of a restaurant near Seattle-Tacoma International Airport has decided to put all TSA agents on his No-Eat List.
"We have posted signs on our doors basically saying that they aren't allowed to come into our business," one employee tells travel journalist Christopher Elliott. "We have the right to refuse service to anyone."
She says that whenever a TSA agent attempts to dine at the restaurant, "we turn our backs and completely ignore them, and tell them to leave... Their kind aren't welcomed in our establishment."
The restaurant claims that 90% of its patrons are in agreement with their stance and that the local police have actually helped escort TSA workers of the premises.

Seattle-Area Restaurant Refuses To Serve TSA Agents - The Consumerist

Slippery slope here? Or can restaurants refuse service to anyone they want?
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:00 PM
 
Location: it depends
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Fed up with what he views as crappy treatment from the TSA, the owner of a restaurant near Seattle-Tacoma International Airport has decided to put all TSA agents on his No-Eat List.
"We have posted signs on our doors basically saying that they aren't allowed to come into our business," one employee tells travel journalist Christopher Elliott. "We have the right to refuse service to anyone."
She says that whenever a TSA agent attempts to dine at the restaurant, "we turn our backs and completely ignore them, and tell them to leave... Their kind aren't welcomed in our establishment."
The restaurant claims that 90% of its patrons are in agreement with their stance and that the local police have actually helped escort TSA workers of the premises.

Seattle-Area Restaurant Refuses To Serve TSA Agents - The Consumerist

Slippery slope here? Or can restaurants refuse service to anyone they want?
This is great. When I learn of a particularly stupid corporate or government policy, I wonder where they find the people to actually say and do the things that the stupid policy requires. I would not in a million years serve as a TSA agent. The worst thing you can imagine in all of history required people to go along with it, individuals making decisions to be a part of it or not.

"What if they gave a security screening and nobody came?"
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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Good for the restaurant owner.
Many are overweight anyhow, so I'd just tell them Michelle Obama says they need to get on a diet and that will head off any calls to the ACLU.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:05 PM
 
Location: NE CT
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Yes they can. No shirts, no shoes, no service is one example.

The smarter thing they can do is just ignore them when they enter. They can be seated after a wait of 30 minutes since they are so busy. After that 30 minutes, they can be seated. 20 minutes later they can be given some water but maybe the waitress/waiter doesn't show up for 20 minutes, then forgets the menus. Another 20 minutes and says I'll be right back, need my pen.

Another 20 miutes later, he / she shows up and says, "oh I forgot my order pad. Another 20 minutes goes by and they can take the order. Then the order can take an hour and one half to prepare and present to the table.

Would you go back to that restaurant?
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Fed up with what he views as crappy treatment from the TSA, the owner of a restaurant near Seattle-Tacoma International Airport has decided to put all TSA agents on his No-Eat List.
"We have posted signs on our doors basically saying that they aren't allowed to come into our business," one employee tells travel journalist Christopher Elliott. "We have the right to refuse service to anyone."
She says that whenever a TSA agent attempts to dine at the restaurant, "we turn our backs and completely ignore them, and tell them to leave... Their kind aren't welcomed in our establishment."
The restaurant claims that 90% of its patrons are in agreement with their stance and that the local police have actually helped escort TSA workers of the premises.

Seattle-Area Restaurant Refuses To Serve TSA Agents - The Consumerist

Slippery slope here? Or can restaurants refuse service to anyone they want?
BRAVO!!! to the restraunt owner and the customers who help them leave too. Extra points to the police who share their sentiments.

Who says if you won't fly you can't do something?

If I'm ever in Seattle this is one place I'll make sure to give some business.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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The poor TSA guys are just doing a job (a crappy job at that).
Mebbie they oughtta refuse to seat politicians.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:49 PM
 
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The poor TSA guys are just doing a job (a crappy job at that).
Mebbie they oughtta refuse to seat politicians.
Correct, the TSA workers themselves aren't the problem. It's the Namby-Pamby politicians who set the ridiculous policies in the first place that are the problem. We should get rid of scanners & pat downs and start doing interviews and profiling like any logical, thinking person would conclude.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Correct, the TSA workers themselves aren't the problem. It's the Namby-Pamby politicians who set the ridiculous policies in the first place that are the problem. We should get rid of scanners & pat downs and start doing interviews and profiling like any logical, thinking person would conclude.
BOTH are part of the problem. Politicans are drinking the coolaide about how we have to be "safe" and how the blue gloves will protect us. The ones who came up with the system are the real problem but nobody ever really sees them. But the TSA agents are also culpable since they are following orders. If someone said inject everyone in the airport with this harmless substance before they could come in so we'll be safe they would do it. Its just thier job. But we do have a responsibility to *question* if our "job" is justified. When some agent in UNIFORM leaves an elderly woman crying and discheveled they either know it was wrong and did it anyway, or they have shut off that part. Shut it off and you just take orders. You toss our your responsiblity but also become responsible FOR the act.

The scanners have had many questions raised about safety. The government is ignoring them. Its no different than the "harmless substance" above which is in realty harmfull. Instituing a police state inside an airport has made a lot of people wary of flying and I wish it did all of them. If airlines have no passangers then you can't ignore it.

I think the guy at the restraunt is doing all of us a favor in his protest, and apparently the employees and customers and local police agree. Maybe the screeners are low paid throwaways (they are also exposed to much more of this "harmless" radiation) but they are the symbol and in taking the job they must realize that they will be *seen* as part of the hated machine. The problem is that only those who are okay with that, who have never grown a consciounce or can dismiss it entirely, will take the jobs. You do NOT want to create a uniformed force who will do as they are told without questioning who's responsibility is to deal directly with the public or the slipprey slope slipped a little more.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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He grasped me firmly, but gently, just above my elbow and guided me into a room, his room. Then he quietly shut the door and we were alone.

He approached me soundlessly, from behind, and spoke in a low, reassuring voice, close to my ear.

"Just relax. . . "

Without warning, he reached down and I felt his strong, calloused hands start at my ankles, gently probing and moving upward along my calves, slowly, but steadily. My breath caught in my throat.

I knew I should be afraid, but somehow I didn't care. His touch was so experienced, so sure.

When his hands moved up onto my thighs, I gave a slight shudder, and I partly closed my eyes. My pulse was pounding. I felt his knowing fingers caress my abdomen, my ribcage. And then, as he cupped my firm, full breasts in his hands, I inhaled sharply.

Probing, searching, knowing what he wanted, he brought his hands to my shoulders, slid them down my tingling spine and into my panties.

Although I knew nothing about this man, I felt oddly trusting and expectant.. This is a man, I thought. A man used to taking charge. A man not used to taking "no" for an answer. A man who would tell me what he wanted. A man who would look into my soul and say . . . . .


"Okay, ma'am, all done."

My eyes snapped open and he was standing in front of me, smiling, holding out my purse. "You can board your flight now."

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Old 02-22-2011, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Perhaps the proprietors of the restaurant will decide to modify their stance. They could, for instance, agree to serve TSA agents after they have agreed to a strip search.
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