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Old 02-23-2011, 06:13 AM
 
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The push by Republican governors around the country to severely restrict or end collective bargaining rights for public employees is losing a battle with the public--according to a Gallup/USA today poll, 61% of Americans oppose taking away some of the collective bargaining rights of public workers. One would expect heavy opposition from Democrats, but according to the poll, 41% of Republicans and 62% of independents also oppose these measures.

The radical far right end of the Republican party has gone too far this time--they're losing nearly half of their own voters on this one, plus they've managed to do the nearly impossible--fire up middle and working class voters to fight back.


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Old 02-23-2011, 06:18 AM
 
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The push by Republican governors around the country to severely restrict or end collective bargaining rights for public employees is losing a battle with the public--according to a Gallup/USA today poll, 61% of Americans oppose taking away some of the collective bargaining rights of public workers. One would expect heavy opposition from Democrats, but according to the poll, 41% of Republicans and 62% of independents also oppose these measures.

The radical far right end of the Republican party has gone too far this time--they're losing their own voters on this one, plus they've managed to do the nearly impossible--fire up middle and working class voters to fight back.


Scaling Back State Programs Is Least of Three Fiscal Evils
Thanks for providing this polling information. I was very interested in seeing where the public stood on this issue.

It would be very interesting to see how this plays out on a state by state basis and I'm going to be very interested to see if this bites the Republican Party in the *ss in the 2012 elections particularly in the Midwest. If the Republicans don't do well in Midwestern states there is no way they can win a Presidential election.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:18 AM
 
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Leftist propaganda
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:22 AM
 
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Leftist propaganda
Yeah...Gallup is leftist...LOL!!
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:25 AM
 
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Thanks for providing this polling information. I was very interested in seeing where the public stood on this issue.

It would be very interesting to see how this plays out on a state by state basis and I'm going to be very interested to see if this bites the Republican Party in the *ss in the 2012 elections particularly in the Midwest. If the Republicans don't do well in Midwestern states there is no way they can win a Presidential election.
It's not going to be just the Midwest--there are similar campaigns by newly elected republicans across the country to enact similar legislation (it's a national strategy), although some R's (Indiana and Florida) are telling their general assemblies to back off after what they've seen in Wisconsin because they're beginning to understand they can't win this one with voters.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:35 AM
 
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I read those polls, and interestingly enough, Democrats favored higher taxes more than republicans, republicans favored cutting spending more than democrats. If based on the answers, there were equal numbers of democrats, republicans, and independents, I think the total results would be different than shown.

Of course anyone can make a poll show what they want.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:40 AM
 
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I read those polls, and interestingly enough, Democrats favored higher taxes more than republicans, republicans favored cutting spending more than democrats. If based on the answers, there were equal numbers of democrats, republicans, and independents, I think the total results would be different than shown.

Of course anyone can make a poll show what they want.
Try rereading the poll and the methodology. If your accusation was correct (that the poll was weighted toward D's) then higher taxes would have been more of a preference, and it wasn't. Have you ever followed polls much? Gallup is pretty much as neutral as it gets--it's one of the most highly respected polling groups out there.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:53 AM
 
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The radical far right end of the Republican party has gone too far this time--they're losing nearly half of their own voters on this one, plus they've managed to do the nearly impossible--fire up middle and working class voters to fight back.
Don't think so.

Something fishy here;

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Indies and Republicans say unions are MORE harmful, but yet, we have 61% saying they oppose curtailing CB. Doesn't make sense, would love to see the party ID breakdown.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:56 AM
 
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Thanks for providing this polling information. I was very interested in seeing where the public stood on this issue.

It would be very interesting to see how this plays out on a state by state basis and I'm going to be very interested to see if this bites the Republican Party in the *ss in the 2012 elections particularly in the Midwest. If the Republicans don't do well in Midwestern states there is no way they can win a Presidential election.
Factbox: Several states mull limits on public unions | Reuters

Public unions have the right to collectively bargain in about 30 states, plus the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico.
In some states in the south and west, public employees do not have the right to collectively bargain, and in Virginia and Texas, it is illegal to enter into a formal bargaining relationship with the public sector


I bet many people don't understand what they are being asked . They don't have that in their state .
When I tell people that each states Governor has different powers , they don't believe me. I'm sure the collective bargaining rights of public vs private is lost to the likes of Lady Gaga
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:00 AM
 
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Try rereading the poll and the methodology. If your accusation was correct (that the poll was weighted toward D's) then higher taxes would have been more of a preference, and it wasn't. Have you ever followed polls much? Gallup is pretty much as neutral as it gets--it's one of the most highly respected polling groups out there.
I don't know any people that say yes to that . LMAO . Oh , yes the welfare for lifers are D's . My bad .
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