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Old 03-01-2011, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I have wondered how smart buying one of those things at $40,000 would be and always seem to come to the same conclusion that old Bill Balsamico does in this blog. I think he has studied the problem out pretty well and finds that getting the thing to drive from near Pittsburgh to Cleveland next fall to see the football game would be very nonsensical. I wonder what Obama would say about such reasoning.

Bill Balsamico | The rantings of someone that truly loves his country.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:20 PM
 
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I agree with Bill. Why bother? Would take years to reap the $$$ benefits, anyway. Not worth it. Unless the car you drive now suddenly dies. But then, I'd just get another gasoline car. Much cheaper.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:35 PM
 
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Would take years to reap the $$$ benefits, anyway. Not worth it. Unless the car you drive now suddenly dies. But then, I'd just get another gasoline car. Much cheaper.
In the case of the Chevy Volt (or even the Nissan Leaf) that would all depend on what price range you are looking at. Even without government rebates and tax allowances there are quite a few comparable cars in the $40,000 plus range that would make the Volt a very attractive alternative to Mercedes, BMW, Saab, Infiniti, Lexus, or even Cadillac and one that you would immediately realize operational cost savings. Hell even a Nissan Maxima is in the same price and class.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:38 PM
 
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Basically you are PREPAYING for all the gas upfront when you buy the car... from a financial standpoint, unless gas gets up to $5-6 a gallon in the next 5-10 years, it wouldn't "make" you any money... I doubt the car would last 10 years before you will have to replace the battery (which is pretty much the cost of another new car)... So in essence, if you buy this car you are really trying to say one thing and one thing only... that you believe in global warming from manmade CO2 and that you choose to drive in manner to decrease it even though the way you live isn't even close to coming to that statement...
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:50 PM
 
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Basically you are PREPAYING for all the gas upfront when you buy the car... from a financial standpoint, unless gas gets up to $5-6 a gallon in the next 5-10 years, it wouldn't "make" you any money... I doubt the car would last 10 years before you will have to replace the battery (which is pretty much the cost of another new car)... So in essence, if you buy this car you are really trying to say one thing and one thing only... that you believe in global warming from manmade CO2 and that you choose to drive in manner to decrease it even though the way you live isn't even close to coming to that statement...
Well that's a rather specious argument because it assumes that there is some mythical standard price point for automobiles and that a hybrids only comparable features consist of an alternate power train.
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:12 PM
 
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Basically you are PREPAYING for all the gas upfront when you buy the car... from a financial standpoint, unless gas gets up to $5-6 a gallon in the next 5-10 years, it wouldn't "make" you any money... I doubt the car would last 10 years before you will have to replace the battery (which is pretty much the cost of another new car)... So in essence, if you buy this car you are really trying to say one thing and one thing only... that you believe in global warming from manmade CO2 and that you choose to drive in manner to decrease it even though the way you live isn't even close to coming to that statement...
This. MSRP of the Volt is over $32,000. Nope, not worth it. You won't realize any $$ savings for years, and as evilnewbie pointed out, it'll be time to replace the battery.

Money guru Clark Howard recommends driving your car till it dies before buying one for these, for the reasons evilnewbie stated above. But if you're an extreme treehugger, go for it. I'll keep my cash in my pocket.
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Buy it without telling the spouse. That would be pretty controversial.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:11 PM
 
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I prefer diesel cars, not these idiotic expensive hybrids or electric cars. Diesel is a proven technology and gets high mileage ratings comparable to a hybrid to begin with. And no expensive batteries to replace!
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:29 PM
 
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I prefer diesel cars, not these idiotic expensive hybrids or electric cars. Diesel is a proven technology and gets high mileage ratings comparable to a hybrid to begin with. And no expensive batteries to replace!
Diesel is dirty. The phrase "clean diesel" is propaganda from Volkswagen. You've been brainwashed, I'm afraid.

And I've never heard of anyone having to replace the batteries in a hybrid.
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:17 AM
 
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I have wondered how smart buying one of those things at $40,000 would be and always seem to come to the same conclusion that old Bill Balsamico does in this blog. I think he has studied the problem out pretty well and finds that getting the thing to drive from near Pittsburgh to Cleveland next fall to see the football game would be very nonsensical. I wonder what Obama would say about such reasoning.

Bill Balsamico | The rantings of someone that truly loves his country.
Bill shouldn't bother, bill needs his bicycle. He's morbidly obese. If he lays off the pork rinds, eat a carrot, and perhaps takes a good long walk separated from FOX brainwashing machine might put a little air and light on the subject.

Expecting electric cars to serve long distance travel needs is dishonest to say the least. It's ideally suited for local travel & short stops typical of city/ suburban life use. That's where the lion's share of the fuel is being consumed, and a huge contributor of smog. Less fuel consumption in cities will remove pressure from commodities pricing. EPA rules might not need to be so strictly enforced in citified areas if what's coming out of tailpipes were managed better. That was the point of california's legislation that didn't involve all states to comply with their laws but for some ungodly reason a republican saw fit to shut down local initiatives & self determination. Evil doer is as evil doer does.

So really, Roys, you still defend Bush no matter how flagrantly he defied every principle republicans hold as truth? You aren't a republican and haven't been for some time now. Don't get me wrong, you aren't a democrat either.
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