Gallup: February Unemployment Hits 10.3% (wages, illegal, illegals, election)

[txgolfer130]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Is this like you guys proclaiming unemployment was falling during Obamas term, when they werent, and ignoring the fact that tax cuts would lead to lower unemployment, which they have?

The current tax cuts have not been in place long enough to even attempt to be taken as evidence for such claims, which have historically been proven to be untrue.

[momonkey]

Originally Posted by JazzyTallGuy

Conservatives have absolutely no use for the truth, objectivity or open minds.

All they want or need is their ideology.

Initial jobless claims declining isn't the same as more people working, and adding jobs doesn't mean the unemployment rate declines.

You do realize a person who has been out of work for two years isn't counted by BLS, right?

[momonkey]

Originally Posted by chielgirl

Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_economy - broken link)

WASHINGTON – Employers hired in February at the fastest pace in almost a year and the unemployment rate fell to 8.9 percent — a nearly two-year low.


I guess the OP is a bit off...

Does the official unemployment rate exclude people who have stopped
looking for work?

Yes; however, there are separate estimates of persons outside the labor force who
want a job, including those who have stopped looking because they believe no jobs
are available (discouraged workers).

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.faq.htm


http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm#unemployed

[oz in SC]

Perhaps this is just too simple for the fedgov. to use when figuring out employed/unemployed but....

Wouldn't it be easier to simply ask questions like:
Are you working?
How many hours a week?

If not working do you want a job?
How long have you been without a job?

Seems needlessly classifying people in subcategories just muddies the water.

[Old Gringo]

Originally Posted by momonkey

Energy and food prices skyrocketing and a stagnant economy with increasing unemployment, isn't this what we used to call Carternomics?

Well, in any case, we're all screwed...

Gallup Finds U.S. Unemployment Hitting 10.3% in February

Only Gallup is screwed.


The real unemployment figure: 8.9%

February jobs report: Unemployment falls as hiring picks up - Mar. 4, 2011

[oz in SC]

Why is the phone poll by the BLS somehow better than the phone poll by Gallup?

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by txgolfer130

The current tax cuts have not been in place long enough to even attempt to be taken as evidence for such claims, which have historically been proven to be untrue.

not true.. tax cuts are for the year, meaning January they would have started to see changes. Business budget FOR THE YEAR, and when they see tax cuts which affect their bottom line, they hire NOW.. They dont wait till December to hire because they would only get a prorated discount.. the earlier they hire, the better the cuts..

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by oz in SC

Why is the phone poll by the BLS somehow better than the phone poll by Gallup?

Because the BLS seasonably adjusts the numbers and tweaks them

[Frankie117]

Originally Posted by oz in SC

Why is the phone poll by the BLS somehow better than the phone poll by Gallup?

Because Gallup is just a pathetic non-partisan professional polling company in business for 75 years, the BLS is a flawless government agency that has never been wrong.

[oz in SC]

Originally Posted by frankie117

because gallup is just a pathetic non-partisan professional polling company in business for 75 years, the bls is a flawless government agency that has never been wrong.

lol.....