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Old 03-07-2011, 05:41 AM
 
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Yes, I said spineless.

At least George W. Bush was not shy about pushing his "Freedom Agenda," which was wholly and completely aimed at the Middle Eastern oppressors who talk about democracy from the Presidential Palace but enforce a police state in the streets.

At least George W. Bush didn't turn a blind eye to those who wanted the United States to do more to help foreign peoples.

The unrest happening in the Middle East screams that freedom from oppression and liberty for all is inherent. They want someone to support them in their uprising, particularly the United States, who has always led freedom's way. But what do we get from Barack Obama? Nothing. Not even a good speech. A few Executive Orders. A few warships passing through the Suez Canal. But hardly a word from the man. Doesn't he know that trying to be the Anti-Bush is not working for him?

Spineless leadership. That's what Barack Obama espouses.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Revolutions only work when they are a result of domestic rebellion, not foreign intervention. We need to stay out except for providing aid to the injured.

If you are willing to call President Obana spineless why don't you personally go to Lybia and help the oppressed. Spineless maybe?
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:06 AM
 
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Revolutions only work when they are a result of domestic rebellion, not foreign intervention. We need to stay out except for providing aid to the injured.

If you are willing to call President Obana spineless why don't you personally go to Libya and help the oppressed. Spineless maybe?

As though the videos of voters with purple thumbs in Iraq and Afghanistan haven't inspired those in Iran, Egypt, Algiers and Libya to demand real democratic elections.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:11 AM
 
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Yes, I said spineless.

At least George W. Bush was not shy about pushing his "Freedom Agenda," which was wholly and completely aimed at the Middle Eastern oppressors who talk about democracy from the Presidential Palace but enforce a police state in the streets.

At least George W. Bush didn't turn a blind eye to those who wanted the United States to do more to help foreign peoples.

The unrest happening in the Middle East screams that freedom from oppression and liberty for all is inherent. They want someone to support them in their uprising, particularly the United States, who has always led freedom's way. But what do we get from Barack Obama? Nothing. Not even a good speech. A few Executive Orders. A few warships passing through the Suez Canal. But hardly a word from the man. Doesn't he know that trying to be the Anti-Bush is not working for him?

Spineless leadership. That's what Barack Obama espouses.


Think Reagan would take two weeks to take a position on the Iranian uprising or fail to support elements in these uprisings who support Western democratic values?

Poland was a text book case of effective foreign policy leading to a positive outcome. Obama has no such consistent policy since his first concern is to be on all sides so as to claim victory no matter what the outcome. It's always about him.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:13 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Yes, I said spineless.

At least George W. Bush was not shy about pushing his "Freedom Agenda," which was wholly and completely aimed at the Middle Eastern oppressors who talk about democracy from the Presidential Palace but enforce a police state in the streets.
Pushing? Is that what walking hand in hand thru the Rose Garden with a Saudi leader is called?

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At least George W. Bush didn't turn a blind eye to those who wanted the United States to do more to help foreign peoples.
Typical bleeding heart NeoConfused BS. He turned a blind eye to Americans needing help yet the Neos champion him for pissing away US taxpayer $$$ in lame attempts at building other nations. What a crock of crap!

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Spineless leadership. That's what Barack Obama espouses.
Afraid he might adhere to the Constitution? Which by the way DOES NOT task the US with playing freedom fighter for the world.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:15 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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As though the videos of voters with purple thumbs in Iraq and Afghanistan haven't inspired those in Iran, Egypt, Algiers and Libya to demand real democratic elections.
As though it's America's job to fight for other countries freedom around the world while ignoring America's problems. You bleeding heart NeoConfused should be ashamed oif yourselves.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:18 AM
 
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Default At least George W. Bush HAD a Foreign Policy!

What a load of ****

We all see how well Bush's neocon game worked out.

Back to the drawing board for a better talking point, please.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:19 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Pushing? Is that what walking hand in hand thru the Rose Garden with a Saudi leader is called?



Typical bleeding heart NeoConfused BS. He turned a blind eye to Americans needing help yet the Neos champion him for pissing away US taxpayer $$$ in lame attempts at building other nations. What a crock of crap!



Afraid he might adhere to the Constitution?
Which by the way DOES NOT task the US with playing freedom fighter for the world.
Why would he do that now?

He has ripped apart the constitution and tossed it into the trash.

Exactly why he went back to college to learn how to destroy it.

Once the HC bill is wiped out for being unconstitutional will you then change you mind about Obama? After all he is suppose to be a constitutional lawyer and should have known it was illegal.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:21 AM
 
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Poland was a text book case of effective foreign policy leading to a positive outcome. Obama has no such consistent policy since his first concern is to be on all sides so as to claim victory no matter what the outcome. It's always about him.
More self-Righteous BS. Poland was and is a textbook case of peaceful revolt from within by its own people, to attribute it more to Reagan than Walesa is nothing but baseless political spin.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:21 AM
 
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Pushing? Is that what walking hand in hand thru the Rose Garden with a Saudi leader is called?



Typical bleeding heart NeoConfused BS. He turned a blind eye to Americans needing help yet the Neos champion him for pissing away US taxpayer $$$ in lame attempts at building other nations. What a crock of crap!



Afraid he might adhere to the Constitution? Which by the way DOES NOT task the US with playing freedom fighter for the world.



Does bowing count in your world?

This story is still playing out. If Middle-Eastern nations embrace western democratic values because of reforms they see in Iraq and Afghanistan, what we invested there will be pennies on the dollar to what war with Islamo-fascist (possibly nuclear) states could cost going forward.

I think your greatest fear is "W" will be proven to have been right all along.
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