Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-17-2011, 09:28 PM
 
2,673 posts, read 3,251,402 times
Reputation: 1997

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90 View Post
Are you really saying you are against people wanting to have freedom and rights and not be controlled by a dictator? I sure hope you are not saying that.
As Hillary Clinton said this morning, or yesterday morning (i forget) "there are evil rulers, conflicts between and within countries all over the world at one time or another. As much as America would love for everyone to have freedom and democracy we cannot simply intervene, at will." That's paraphrased, but essentially what she said.

She's actually right, we can't.

I wonder if you, Sunny-Dave90, felt the same way during the Rwanda holocaust; the horrific Congro fighting? No? Well, what about that bloody horrific war in Bosnia?

Bush jumped into the Iraq war because he and Cheney had a plan to steal their oil. It's really that simple.

ANd just tonight when Donal Trump was thumping on Obama, (and some of it justified, IMO, I might add) he said, "Iran is going to go in and take Iraq's oil, so why don't we just take their oil?"

Ain't that just so American of him!! Iraq was about stealing their oil. As for Libya, whaat were we to do? We needed to be in unison with other UN nations......the ranch at Crawford was sold and the wannabe cowboy is now living in a very urban and posh gated community in Dallas.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-17-2011, 09:32 PM
 
11,155 posts, read 15,717,044 times
Reputation: 4209
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucknow View Post
Well, I think today just proved the wisdom of a president who is reluctant to commit the USA to yet another inilateral military misadventure. My attitude was "what about those freaking Europeans"? The conflict is right in their backyard. They are the ex colonial powers that are largly responsible for so much of what is wrong with the region today. Let them do something. Let them expend their treasure and soldiers for once. Why should the USA pull the chestnuts out of the fire for them over and over again. They have gotten used to it ever since the end of WW2. It's way past time for a change in this never ending America to the rescue soap opera.

I was totally appaled by them when the Serbs were running amuck and the European community sat there and did nothing at all. If it had not been for the USA and it's leadership in NATO the Serbs would now be the Greater Serbs probably haven taken over the entire Balkins.

I applaud the President. His foreign policy is far better than that we have come to expect from the USA.
I couldn't agree more. It's really great to have a president with such patience and foresight. It's not a glamorous position, and he'll take flack for it from those who want to bluster over the world, but this president shows again and again wisdom on a level most simply do not possess.

Today's decision proved that, as you said. Very fiscally and morally sound foreign policy to save money and lives.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2011, 09:39 PM
 
48,502 posts, read 96,924,900 times
Reputation: 18305
Now Obama at this late date has decided to go ito libya against his military advise. So we will see what indesiveness means won't we?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2011, 09:43 PM
 
11,155 posts, read 15,717,044 times
Reputation: 4209
Quote:
Originally Posted by texdav View Post
Now Obama at this late date has decided to go ito libya against his military advise. So we will see what indesiveness means won't we?
you're entitled to your opinion, but are you aware that if he didn't wait for the UN we would have launched right into another Iraq where we get stuck with everything?

I don't understand when prudence and conservatism went out of fashion.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2011, 09:48 PM
 
45,250 posts, read 26,493,925 times
Reputation: 25006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefly View Post
you're entitled to your opinion, but are you aware that if he didn't wait for the UN we would have launched right into another Iraq where we get stuck with everything?

I don't understand when prudence and conservatism went out of fashion.
tell it to the families of those who will undoubtedly die there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2011, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
41,325 posts, read 44,984,873 times
Reputation: 7118
One has to wonder if her comments, which made obama look extremely WEAK, had anything to do with his 360 reversal.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2011, 09:52 PM
 
11,155 posts, read 15,717,044 times
Reputation: 4209
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
tell it to the families of those who will undoubtedly die there.
I want you to be honest - if McCain were in this position, would you have said the same thing? Because I'm pretty sure he would have made the same decision.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2011, 09:55 PM
 
45,250 posts, read 26,493,925 times
Reputation: 25006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefly View Post
I want you to be honest - if McCain were in this position, would you have said the same thing? Because I'm pretty sure he would have made the same decision.
Too be honest, I didn't vote for McCain.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2011, 09:58 PM
 
25,619 posts, read 36,738,243 times
Reputation: 23296


Listen dumbass, for the last time bomb his ass. Then get yourself an intern to let off some "steam". Just make sure you don't take out any aspirin factories.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2011, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
41,325 posts, read 44,984,873 times
Reputation: 7118
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefly View Post
you're entitled to your opinion, but are you aware that if he didn't wait for the UN we would have launched right into another Iraq where we get stuck with everything?

I don't understand when prudence and conservatism went out of fashion.
Hilarious! It's been what - 31 days? They wait until the "rebels" are about to be slaughtered, along with their brothers who already were.

Ok...now you're A-ok with invading and bombing a sovereign nation?

I can only imagine what the reaction would be if this were Bush.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:30 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top