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Old 03-23-2011, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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"A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul alinski
Funny how Saul forgets that there's a huge gulf between the dictatorship and the paradise phases. That gulf is usually filled with the bodies of 40 million citizens, give or take a million. Even with all of those dead bodies, his last stage never seems to be realized. It then comes into focus: that gulf is indeed bottomless.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:02 AM
 
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At least the Bill Kristol's of the world want to leave your wallet alone. Progressives are not only endlessly wanting more regulation and control over private assets and business, they now want more regulation and control in the middle east.
Bill Kristol isn't leaving my damn wallet alone when he has no qualms with spending trillions on dumb wars of choice. In fact, he's further in my wallet than any so called "tax and spend liberal" could ever be.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:04 AM
 
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No he is certainly not a moderate leftist,he is simply trying to be all to all people...and failing

Of course that was a given.
Really? I'm trying to find a poll where a majority of Americans feel the same way i do about this Libya thing. Can't find it.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:05 AM
 
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I agree with Kucinich and always have believed him to be the best choice for President. I have gotten pretty ticked off with Obama in the past year and if impeachment would bring him into line with his promises, I'd be all for it.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Really? I'm trying to find a poll where a majority of Americans feel the same way i do about this Libya thing. Can't find it.
Initial euphoria is a wonderful thing.

Only the hard left are leaving him now. As this continues, the softer left and more centrist folks will follow.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:06 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Bill Kristol isn't leaving my damn wallet alone when he has no qualms with spending trillions on dumb wars of choice. In fact, he's further in my wallet than any so called "tax and spend liberal" could ever be.
Obama isn't either....but you are going to vote for him.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:10 AM
 
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Obama isn't either....but you are going to vote for him.
If it comes down to Bill Kristol or Obama, that's an easy choice.

And i'm not the one making the initial complaint about my "wallet." That was a response to someone else. I don't mind paying taxes. I can afford it. But don't give me some crap about Bill Kristol wanting to "stay outta my wallet!" That's a load of bull.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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If it comes down to Bill Kristol or Obama, that's an easy choice.

And i'm not the one making the initial complaint about my "wallet." That was a response to someone else. I don't mind paying taxes. I can afford it. But don't give me some crap about Bill Kristol wanting to "stay outta my wallet!" That's a load of bull.
The Repubs are ALL Bill Kristol! The Kristol like looking down the nose at the American people, is a Universal Repub trait. They all march to Kristol's drum.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:16 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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The Repubs are ALL Bill Kristol! The Kristol like looking down the nose at the American people, is a Universal Repub trait. They all march to Kristol's drum.
Dems are ALL Obama,warmongers and willing to attack other nations that are of no threat to the USA...

Wow,that sounds as silly as your post.
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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If it comes down to Bill Kristol or Obama, that's an easy choice.
You don't have to make a choice (sit out election), or you can choose someone else and sleep well that evening. I'm not saying YOU in particular, I'm just saying that either of the other two choices sends a message also. It may not send the message you care to send, but that's what makes everyone unique.
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