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Old 03-31-2011, 07:04 PM
 
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Listen. If he has NOTHING to hide, WHY has he spent millions defending himself in court when people requests copies of the original. He is evasive and defensive. It really make me question the legitimacy of the document. Anyone with some political pull could have one of these printed.
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:06 PM
 
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Listen. If he has NOTHING to hide, WHY has he spent millions defending himself in court when people requests copies of the original. He is evasive and defensive. It really make me question the legitimacy of the document. Anyone with some political pull could have one of these printed.
Prove he's spent millions.
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:06 PM
 
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Hey meson, who are you taking me for? I asked about the image Memphis1979 posted. Again where are the signatures of the parents?
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:08 PM
 
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It just proves that he was born alive, not dead!!
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:09 PM
 
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Hey meson, who are you taking me for? I asked about the image Memphis1979 posted. Again where are the signatures of the parents?
Why do the parents need to sign a digital copy of his COLB? Please stop playing dumb.
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:10 PM
 
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Revealed: Ronald Reagan's Birth Certificate Is A Fake! - Political Forum (http://www.politicalforum.com/other-miscellaneous/179066-revealed-ronald-reagans-birth-certificate-fake.html - broken link)
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Great find, Op.

Now if only obama would release his original LF, the issue could be put to rest.

But no, he'd rather spend millions defending all the lawsuits against him.

The most transparent president ever apparently has something to hide.
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:11 PM
 
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Listen. If he has NOTHING to hide, WHY has he spent millions defending himself in court....
because he hasn't.

this comes up in every birther thread. there is no evidence that obama has spent "millions" on defense. the claim is usually based on the money spent on legal services during his campaign ( which were pretty standard ).
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:14 PM
 
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Great find, Op.

Now if only obama would release his original LF, the issue could be put to rest.
did you read the article? ike didn't have an "original LF".
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:14 PM
 
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This is a perfect example of how Republicans get shnookered by the "Someone wrote it down so it must be true" concept.

Ok, MrClose, I read the entire linked article. You actually quoted the "relevant" part in your OP, which was:
"However, the need arose when he became a presidential candidate. Since Eisenhower was the oldest man to be elected president since James Buchanan over 100 years earlier, age was obviously not at issue. Instead, there was protocol in place for presidential candidates to provide proof of eligibility to appear on the ballot."
So I have some questions for you if you don't mind.

What evidence is there that "the need arose [for a birth certificate] when he became a presidential candidate? Are you, or the author of the article attempting to draw that conclusion based merely on the fact that he provided one?

"Since Eisenhower was the oldest man to be elected president since James Buchanan over 100 years earlier, age was obviously not at issue." Obvious to whom? Obvious how? What is the reason the author wishes to exclude age as the reason Eisenhower provided a birth certificate? What evidence is there to support his conclusion that "age was obviously not an issue"?

"Instead, there was protocol in place for presidential candidates to provide proof of eligibility to appear on the ballot." What "protocol" would that be? Did the other candidates provide copies of their birth certificates? Where is the proof that there was any protocol of this sort? From whence did that alleged "protocol" arise? For what reason did that alleged "protocol" die off?

Do you get where I'm going with these questions?

You see, what the author did was, found a presidential candidate who coughed up a birth certificate at some earlier date, then made a whoooooooooooole bunch of giiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiant leaps of logic without a shred of evidence to support the conclusions he drew.

But he said there was a protocol in place, so you believe there was a protocol in place. It doesn't even occur to you to question the author of this piece.

Why? Because it fits your political agenda, that's why. And that's the only reason why.

You would do yourself a huge service, regardless as to whether it changes your political philosophies or not, to learn how to read an article with an eye towards these types of omissions and baseless conclusions. You'll end up more educated, and either way, that's always a better thing to be.
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