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Old 04-04-2011, 03:30 PM
 
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Global warming: Critics' review unexpectedly supports scientific consensus on climate change - latimes.com

A team of UC Berkeley physicists and statisticians that set out to challenge the scientific consensus on global warming is finding that its data-crunching effort is producing results nearly identical to those underlying the prevailing view.

Conservative critics who had expected Muller's group to demonstrate a bias among climate scientists reacted with disappointment.

The Berkeley project's biggest private backer, at $150,000, is the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation. Oil billionaires Charles and David Koch are the nation's most prominent funders of efforts to prevent curbs on the burning of fossil fuels, the largest contributor to planet-warming greenhouse gases.
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Old 04-04-2011, 03:33 PM
 
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Not familiar with their work.Are the Kochs climate scientists??
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:14 PM
 
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Not familiar with their work.Are the Kochs climate scientists??
No, but Richard Mueller, a climate change skeptic that the Koch's funded to run a study on the bias scientists have towards climate change, is. And he found that the data supports what the overwhelming majority of the scientific community have been saying for years.
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:18 PM
 
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The study has created a shiite strom as climate change deniers fall all over themselves in their attempt to assassinate Muller's formerly revered reputation. It is all kind of funny actually.

http://www.good.is/post/scientist-be...heir-argument/

http://www.newsandsentinel.com/page/...-Data----.html

http://climateprogress.org/2011/03/2...erature-study/
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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No, but Richard Mueller, a climate change skeptic that the Koch's funded to run a study on the bias scientists have towards climate change, is. And he found that the data supports what the overwhelming majority of the scientific community have been saying for years.
Hmmmm. So the preliminary data is apparently supportive of it and there is no attempt to hide it? Wow! Impressive. Lets see what additional testing shows. But, I'm mainly impressed with the openess and honesty of this group.
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:22 PM
 
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Global warming: Critics' review unexpectedly supports scientific consensus on climate change - latimes.com

A team of UC Berkeley physicists and statisticians that set out to challenge the scientific consensus on global warming is finding that its data-crunching effort is producing results nearly identical to those underlying the prevailing view.

Conservative critics who had expected Muller's group to demonstrate a bias among climate scientists reacted with disappointment.

The Berkeley project's biggest private backer, at $150,000, is the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation. Oil billionaires Charles and David Koch are the nation's most prominent funders of efforts to prevent curbs on the burning of fossil fuels, the largest contributor to planet-warming greenhouse gases.
Oooops!
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:22 PM
 
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Not familiar with their work.Are the Kochs climate scientists??
They're "Plan B" once Gore fell from grace once the data PROVING global warming came under doubt.

One way or another "Global Warming/Cooling/Change" will be shoved down our throats because third world countries want their global warming money and the only way to get it is for nations to acknowledge it and pay out. Africa alone wants $67 billion per year for global warming payments.
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:30 PM
 
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They're "Plan B" once Gore fell from grace once the data PROVING global warming came under doubt.

One way or another "Global Warming/Cooling/Change" will be shoved down our throats because third world countries want their global warming money and the only way to get it is for nations to acknowledge it and pay out. Africa alone wants $67 billion per year for global warming payments.
I think you're right on the money. BTW, anybody know how Al Gore is doing these days? Is he still pattering around his 25,000 square foot mansion leaving his big old carbon foot prints?
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:35 PM
 
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They're "Plan B" once Gore fell from grace once the data PROVING global warming came under doubt.
The Happy Texan says under his breath...

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Old 04-04-2011, 04:38 PM
 
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They're "Plan B" once Gore fell from grace once the data PROVING global warming came under doubt.

One way or another "Global Warming/Cooling/Change" will be shoved down our throats because third world countries want their global warming money and the only way to get it is for nations to acknowledge it and pay out. Africa alone wants $67 billion per year for global warming payments.
So your argument is that the overwhelming majority of climate change scientists (including the one sponsored by the Koch Bros. to find bias among climate change scientists) are deliberately falsifying the results and/or methodologies of scientific studies that appear in peer reviewed journals in order to help developing countries in Africa (a continent, not a country buddy, referring to it as a single entity as you did is quite ignorant) and throughout the rest of the world obtain payments from developed countries where climate change scientists tend to live?

Do you have any idea how paranoid that sounds?
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