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So you think he may not be eligible on a technicality. If it's decided that technicality isn't relevant would you be satisfied or still think it was an elaborate plot all along?
I don't consider the definition of "natural born citizen" to be a technicality - it is the primary requirement for the highest office of this land, and the most powerful person in the world.
Obama is the first President in our national history who -- at the time of his birth -- was openly subject to and governed by the laws of another nation. The issue which needs to be heard in court is whether such a person’s citizenship will be considered "natural born" for the rest of our nation’s history.
This of course, is untrue. There have been several presidents who have had "dual citizenship" at birth and sometimes long thereafter, e.g. Thomas Jefferson (held French citizenship), James Buchanan (father was an Irish citizen at the time of his birth), and Chester Arthur (ditto). It is not known if Hubert Humphrey's mother (born in Norway) was a citizen. At least, I couldn't find the answer on google. There are a lot more "irregularities" than one might think with presidential nationalities. Obama gave up his dual citizenship at age 23.
I don't consider the definition of "natural born citizen" to be a technicality - it is the primary requirement for the highest office of this land, and the most powerful person in the world.
Yet you can't show us where "natural born citizen" has EVER been defined.
Did you ever have a baby? When we had our kids, we were given a form to fill out that asked the questions about baby's name (how quaint, ours said "If boy; If girl"; now everyone knows what they're having months in advance); parents' names; parents' birth state or if not state, name of country; parent's education years; mother's usual address; and probably some other stuff I'm forgetting b/c it's been 24 years since I've done this last. Some people have posted in these numerous birther threads that when they had their kids the hospital sent someone around to the new moms asking this information. In any event, then the BC is printed up and then the birth attendant and the mother have to sign it. My second child was born on Saturday the 4th of July. I had to take her to the hospital on the Tuesday after (July 7) to get a blood test, and it was only then that her BC was ready for my signature. It took another 16 days for it to get recorded.
When I worked in OB in Champaign IL, the newspapers would call the postpartum floor every few days asking for births.
That's all well and good, but that's not how things happened in Hawaii in 1961, just after they became a state. There are plenty of sites attesting to the fact that people were given birth certificates in Hawaii, even tho they weren't born there. He has no records at Kapiolani, nor at the other hospital in Hawaii - zero!
In the resolution that Obama co-sponsored to state that McCain was a "natural born citizen" uses the term American parents! Kenyan is not American!
But plaintiffs and lawyers who earlier brought a lawsuit against Obama alleging he is ineligible to be president, say he failed to meet the "natural born Citizen" requirement because his father is a foreign national, and the understanding of "natural born Citizen" at the time the Constitution was written was a citizen offspring of citizen parents.
That's also what Obama, as a cosponsor, included in his Senate Resolution 511 in 2008 regarding McCain.
The statement includes two references to "Americans" as parents or "American citizens" as parents.
In the resolution that Obama co-sponsored to state that McCain was a "natural born citizen" uses the term American parents! Kenyan is not American!
But plaintiffs and lawyers who earlier brought a lawsuit against Obama alleging he is ineligible to be president, say he failed to meet the "natural born Citizen" requirement because his father is a foreign national, and the understanding of "natural born Citizen" at the time the Constitution was written was a citizen offspring of citizen parents.
That's also what Obama, as a cosponsor, included in his Senate Resolution 511 in 2008 regarding McCain.
The statement includes two references to "Americans" as parents or "American citizens" as parents.
You link to World Nutz Daily nonsense and expect us to take you seriously.....PRICELESS!
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Well, at least one question has been definitively settled.
