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Old 05-15-2011, 10:57 PM
 
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As long as they dont ask for tax payer money to raise them.
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:04 AM
 
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I've seen a lot of "shotgun" weddings. Years ago (I'm talking mid to late '70's), if a friend/classmate got pregnant, she was quickly married off to the baby's father before it was born "illegitimate". The terms "illegitimate" and "b*****d" were frequently used, and that label was to be avoided at all costs. A high school friend of mine got pregnant senior year, and was herded into a marriage with a man who WASN'T the baby's father - her parents arranged for her to marry an ex-boyfriend to keep the grandchild from being ILLEGITIMATE. The baby was born five days after the wedding. That marriage was a disaster. I've never seen one instance where those forced marriages were happy, or lasted for more than a couple of years. Frequently, there was abuse involved. It just brought additional grief to both parties, and definitely wasn't good for the child.

I don't think bringing a child into the world should be a reckless, unplanned thing, but in some cases, it's better for all concerned to just go it alone.
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:10 AM
 
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I am not. On mother's day a child was baptized at my church. The parents were boyfriend and girlfriend. Why do they feel no shame? I am so confused...
Is this something to celebrate? I think every kid deserves an ADULT as a parent. So am I wrong?
Marriage is a wonderful institution, but who wants to live in an institution?

{Groucho Marx}
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:34 AM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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I am not. On mother's day a child was baptized at my church. The parents were boyfriend and girlfriend. Why do they feel no shame? I am so confused...
Is this something to celebrate? I think every kid deserves an ADULT as a parent. So am I wrong?
It's really not any of your business if they're married or not.

It's not your life, it's theirs.

How can you pass judgment on their life and call yourself a Christian?

Are you using your religious beliefs to come to your conclusions?

Maybe as a christian, you should question why your church accepts unmarried families into the fold? Honestly, anybody who would do that should question why they follow religion at all. Maybe you should start questioning your religious beliefs. Doesn't sound like you're taking your religion seriously when you think your life is better than someone else's and they should feel shameful because of the choices they have made.
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:17 AM
 
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It is not fair to the child. If the parents can't commit to one another, why have children?
I think that some people think of procreation as an accomplishment.
It is not.
Accomplish some thing first. Have something to offer your children. Grow up first.
My kids are teens and they have no interest in having babies.
They look forward to college, travel, so many things.
I am happy that they feel this way. I did too.
I have no issue with it, as long as both parents are committed to raising their child together, whatever suits them

However, its interesting you are collapsing being not married with child, to being immature or a teen.
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Old 05-16-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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I have absolutely no problems with people having kids outside of marriage. In all honesty marriage is not what it use to be. 30 yrs ago marriage was sacred while today it's nothing more than a piece of paper entitling each person to half of the others belongings WHEN they get tired of each other.

What I have a problem with is people having children that are not mentally or financially capable of taking care of them. I firmly believe that there should be some kind of qualification that you must meet before being allowed to reproduce. I for one am tired of supporting all these people that have kids simply to get the maximum allowed benefits from the government.
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Old 05-16-2011, 08:53 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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I am not. On mother's day a child was baptized at my church. The parents were boyfriend and girlfriend. Why do they feel no shame? I am so confused...
Is this something to celebrate? I think every kid deserves an ADULT as a parent. So am I wrong?
There are two thing here. One, the church has its precepts. If the church allows that, it is their prerogative.

Second, having a child outside a marriage does not mean there is not committment on the couples' part.

If you want to ask if there is no shame, why not ask that question to the priest, pastor, etc. for baptizing them? Take care.
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Old 05-16-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I have absolutely no problems with people having kids outside of marriage. In all honesty marriage is not what it use to be. 30 yrs ago marriage was sacred while today it's nothing more than a piece of paper entitling each person to half of the others belongings WHEN they get tired of each other.

What I have a problem with is people having children that are not mentally or financially capable of taking care of them. I firmly believe that there should be some kind of qualification that you must meet before being allowed to reproduce. I for one am tired of supporting all these people that have kids simply to get the maximum allowed benefits from the government.
OMG, you want the government to set standards as to who can and can't have kids?

Most of us are tired of supporting them, most of us wish people would think twice before deciding to have kids and I am all for cutting off support after mommy has a couple kids out of wedlock if that is what we are talking about, but no way would I support the government deciding who and who can not get pregnant: talke about allowing Government into our bedrooms, that is the ultimate.

Nita
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Old 05-16-2011, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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To be honest, I'm not okay with people have kids period whether it be in or outside of marriage.
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Old 05-16-2011, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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To be honest, I'm not okay with people have kids period whether it be in or outside of marriage.
Yes, some people should definitely not breed. I hope you have put your money where your mouth is?
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