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Old 05-16-2011, 02:50 PM
 
Location: missouri
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Do both. If one travels around this loser country of ours, one sees the remnants of many old factories, many others have been torn down. We used to make most of our stuff. The old idea, especially when capitalism was coming into being, was the sound advise to never import more than you export. It seems quite simple if one thinks about it, and yet this dumb country of ours just can't seem to get that.

When they started hiring guys who were more interested in accounting (the so called "whiz kids" like MacNamera and such) rather than the product, it went to hell. This greed is both corporate and political, and it is the genius of our ideological political lombotermers of voters that they can blame it all on business and appear as the saviors of the voters: and lacking mental ability the voters buy this.
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Old 05-16-2011, 04:34 PM
 
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It's a complete fallacy that manufacturing is dead in the USA. You might not see the smokestacks like 30 years ago, but it is still a very large business segment. Skilled manufacturing jobs have been growing since the bad old days of the 80's auto industry. That's what wealthier nations do, create more skilled labor.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: missouri
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Yeah, that is why everything I look at and buy is made in China. Manufacturing is not dead here; who said that? This type of "is/is not" blurs the problem and is ideological (it just takes place to support some dufus politician). Manufacturing needs to be expanded here for that out of work and welfare group. The whole stupid country needs to be employed not just a highly skilled group. Or are we going to continue expanding that parasite group and keep drawing down the pay checks of working people so the Chines can continue to be getting our wealth?

Factory work is not genius and skilled, machines do a lot of the work; I worked in these places all my working life and for the most part one could learn the job in a shift, and contrary to a whole lot of liberal crap, many liked the work as it did not require thought, effort, and the job was left at the plant.

Keep saying life is wonderful here, but I doubt if we are a "wealthier" nation any longer. One should read the new book, "How the West Was Lost", its pretty interesting.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's a complete fallacy that manufacturing is dead in the USA. You might not see the smokestacks like 30 years ago, but it is still a very large business segment. Skilled manufacturing jobs have been growing since the bad old days of the 80's auto industry. That's what wealthier nations do, create more skilled labor.
No..wealthier nations produce. The labor comes with the production.
Service is not a producer..service does not produce a good to sell.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:34 PM
 
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Sounds like somebody should move to Mexico, where they can install bumpers on cars
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Sounds like somebody should move to Mexico, where they can install bumpers on cars
Might earn more than flipping burgers. When hiring at McDonalds is heralded as great signs of recovery we are surely going down quick.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:54 PM
 
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The Germans don't have a huge class of violent citizens who feel that they should be handed everything on a silver platter either.
That's what happens when you don't have slavery, state sanctioned segregtion and discrimination, targeted domestic terrorism and target a specific group of people to be economically, politically and socially disenfranchised for about 180 years of a nation's history.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:56 PM
 
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not true, this country will survive this bump in the road, as soon as those that steered us off course fess up to their mess.

pretty easy to see when it happened, I think they called it trickle down.
You're asking an average American to have some historical insight, understanding of economics, and to do some research and critical thinking. I'm afraid for a lot of folks these days that's a reach.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:58 PM
 
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Of course not!

Lowering taxes is a START.

You have to lower choking regulations as well.

THINK.

If you are a business owner what would YOU do?

Please liberals, TAKE A BUSINESS CLASS!
Despite evidence over the past decade of the contrary?
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: North America
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That's what happens when you don't have slavery, state sanctioned segregtion and discrimination, targeted domestic terrorism and target a specific group of people to be economically, politically and socially disenfranchised for about 180 years of a nation's history.
I think the Germans may have gone through a LOT more than most Americans over the last century.

A LOT MORE!
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