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Old 06-02-2011, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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So you know that it won't be there? If you know the future 40 years in advance.
Social security's demise doesn't need 40 years, just give it until 2020.
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Social security's demise doesn't need 40 years, just give it until 2020.
Unfortunately, it is a long enough period in time for you to escape the mocking in these boards for having said that, even with the wolves I spoke of inside the coop's confines.
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Old 06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Unfortunately, it is a long enough period in time for you to escape the mocking in these boards for having said that, even with the wolves I spoke of inside the coop's confines.
OK. Well you feel free to rely on social security for retirement, I'm going to plan to not get a dime.
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Old 06-02-2011, 09:02 AM
 
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You need better informed..... it's NOT illegal to not pay taxes. Only illegal to not file the proper paperwork. You don't have to pay a dime if you don't want to.
People get wages garnished, homes foreclosed, and jail time for not paying taxes either filed or un-filed. You need to be better informed.
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Old 06-02-2011, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Social security's demise doesn't need 40 years, just give it until 2020.
You make the assumption you know ~10 years in the future with absolute certainty, and you know what they say about assume (it makes an a** of u and me). If you know what is happening that far in the future, you can still make a fortune by making bets where you know the result.

Unless you are more full of crap then a constipated elephant.

If you are wrong will you admit it, or pull a Doomer (like Camping) and just push the date father in the future?

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Well then just tell me the name of that person(s) that was charged with the "crime of owing money" to the gov please...... That's all.
Snipes' jail time: A tax-protest 'wake-up call' - Apr. 25, 2008

I encourage you not to take Snipe's lesson to heart, and please refuse to pay your taxes.
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Old 06-02-2011, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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OK. Well you feel free to rely on social security for retirement, I'm going to plan to not get a dime.
So you didn't get my earlier post either.
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Old 06-02-2011, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb My issue with tax increases.

Q: What is a millionaire known as after he pays his taxes?



























A: A millionaire.


Whining millionaires are an embarrassment.


Shut up. Please...


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Old 06-02-2011, 12:32 PM
 
Location: NW MT
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It's not a crime to owe money, it's a crime to purposely not pay taxes. Generally it's fixed through wage garnishments, liens and such. I worked at a tax resolution firm so I can assure you that paying taxes isn't optional.
That's right..... it's not a crime to owe money. Therefore your next misleading statement is also false..... show me that person(s) charged with the crime of "purposely not paying" ?

And I've already been involved directly and indirectly in a couple "criminal" trials with the US Government over all of this BS...... So show me what I and DA's apparently missed with these cases ?

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People get wages garnished, homes foreclosed, and jail time for not paying taxes either filed or un-filed. You need to be better informed.
Same question to you..... show me any person who has been jailed for "failure to pay" please......

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Snipes' jail time: A tax-protest 'wake-up call' - Apr. 25, 2008

I encourage you not to take Snipe's lesson to heart, and please refuse to pay your taxes.
I encourage you to further enlighten yourself to the case you so eloquently listed..... you know not the facts, only what you think about it in your own mind with the help of the media. Wesley's case is one I have intimate knowledge on as my case was directly linked to his..... If you wish to be educated about actual facts on it PM me and I will help you learn something about your gov !
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Well then just tell me the name of that person(s) that was charged with the "crime of owing money" to the gov please...... That's all.

How about I make it even easier for you. Since you are an accountant and know it's illegal to owe money to the gov, you shouldn't have any problem posting that tax code that states so for me right ?!
Then don't pay youur taxes.....Stand up for your rights!!!
And whateve3r you do, when they come for you, show them your gun
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Social security's demise doesn't need 40 years, just give it until 2020.
Surprise, surprise, the Baby Boom won't live forever and after they are gone it will normalize. all we need to do is remove the cap from the wage tax and we're home free
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