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Old 06-03-2011, 09:09 AM
 
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The creep clung to life with all ten fingernails.
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He had been hospitalized for a month with pneumonia and kidney problems. The nurses were playing Bach for him at the end. They likely knew it was coming close...he must have known. I call him a coward for hanging on when he ushered people out in the name of mercy.



It was their



CHOICE!


That's what it was all about! Having a choice!

AND:


"Hanging on" ???

It was a only month! YOU have no idea of what "hanging on" is....

There are people who "hang on" for months and years!!! All for what????

Why? YOU tell me....
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:19 AM
 
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I truly hope someone takes up his cause. Luckily, people are opening their eyes and seeing that it's downright cruel to force terminally ill people to languish in a sort of half life that can only be properly supported by machines and millions of dollars in useless drugs.............
No one forces terminally ill people to languish. This is the purpose of advanced directives. If people do not make their wishes known in writing they have no one but themselves to blame.

If a person wishes to commit suicide it is up to them to do it. It is not up to a physician to facilitate their death. IMO, that is indeed premeditated murder and against the oath to "do no harm". If the laws change to allow the person with medical power of attorney to take such action that is one thing but IMO, physicians are to heal, not to kill, [MOD CUT]

Obviously, YMMV.

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Old 06-03-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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AHA! Hi there Ibginnie. Good to see the C-D censors out in full force today. Having fun?
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:28 AM
 
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No one forces terminally ill people to languish. This is the purpose of advanced directives. If people do not make their wishes known in writing they have no one but themselves to blame.

If a person wishes to commit suicide it is up to them to do it. It is not up to a physician to facilitate their death. IMO, that is indeed premeditated murder and against the oath to "do no harm". If the laws change to allow the person with medical power of attorney to take such action that is one thing but IMO, physicians are to heal, not to kill, that includes abortion on a healthy woman carrying a healthy fetus.

Obviously, YMMV.
""against the oath to "do no harm".


What harm is there in ending a person's suffering?
[MOD CUT]

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Old 06-03-2011, 09:29 AM
 
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No one forces terminally ill people to languish. This is the purpose of advanced directives. If people do not make their wishes known in writing they have no one but themselves to blame.

If a person wishes to commit suicide it is up to them to do it. It is not up to a physician to facilitate their death. IMO, that is indeed premeditated murder and against the oath to "do no harm". If the laws change to allow the person with medical power of attorney to take such action that is one thing but IMO, physicians are to heal, not to kill, [MOD CUT]

Obviously, YMMV.
The people who chose to die by assisted suicide were not unconscious. They were aware of their pain. These people were not forced to die. The contraption made by Kevorkian made the exit from life easy, much easier (and less messy) than using a gun.
What's the point in suffering if one knows that only death awaits?

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Old 06-03-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED.

What's the point of having honest discussion in here when one has a strong opinion? I was asking an honest question and expected an honest answer.
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Jack Kevorkian should have been given a medal for what he did, not sent to prison.
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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Jack Kevorkian should have been given a medal for what he did, not sent to prison.
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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RIP Jack
I can guarantee you he's not.
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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for all those who think assisted suicide (or murder with permission)
what do you think of this from the left wing time Mag.

Going Too Far with Assisted Suicide? - TIME

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A study in the Netherlands found that one in four doctors said they had killed patients without an explicit request--including one doctor who believed that a dying Dutch nun was prevented from requesting euthanasia because of her religion, so he felt the just and merciful thing to do was to decide for her.
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