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Old 06-10-2011, 12:06 PM
 
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Maybe so, but they can both garner more votes than Obama can at this point.

Obama now has a record of lies to run on, instead of secrecy.
I missed when this became true. Gallup still has him at 46% approval, 44% disapproval. Palin couldn't get elected dog-catcher.
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:46 PM
 
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I agree kevinm. Where do we find reporting these days? I'm sick of reading other people's perceptions and never getting the facts so I can come to my own conclusion. Apparently some people prefer to be TOLD how to think or these practices wouldn't exist. Politico lost a lot of credibility.
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Old 06-10-2011, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Gone
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It wasn't worth discussing it with you, you are a phony and would only deflect it anyway.
Meaning: you have nothin further to add except childish insults
Casper
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Old 06-10-2011, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Maine
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The Blaze=The Onion for news reporting
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Old 06-10-2011, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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Speculation belongs in a novel or on the editorial page of a newspaper. Reporters are supposed to tell what happened not what they THINK happened.


The writers of the piece were giving us their impression of what was going on during the tour. Is is their job to interpret what they see- they are journalists- not reporters. What would you like them to do, follow Palin around with a microphone, and dutifully write whatever she says? Provide us with Palin's version of Palin???

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense...
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Old 06-10-2011, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I missed when this became true. Gallup still has him at 46% approval, 44% disapproval. Palin couldn't get elected dog-catcher.
You need to look again today. He is underwater again.

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The writers of the piece were giving us their impression of what was going on during the tour. Is is their job to interpret what they see- they are journalists- not reporters. What would you like them to do, follow Palin around with a microphone, and dutifully write whatever she says? Provide us with Palin's version of Palin???

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense...
Excuse me, but putting quotation marks around a comment attribute that comment to that person. Tell me you knew this?
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Old 06-10-2011, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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You need to look again today. He is underwater again.



Excuse me, but putting quotation marks around a comment attribute that comment to that person. Tell me you knew this?
No, Sanrene it doesn't. Here is an example:

I bet if I told you , "Sanrene, you are a closet leftie", you'd say something like "I am not, you lying commie @#$%^^!!!"

There, see? Quotation marks all over the place. But no one who can read could possibly confuse what I wrote with anything YOU actually said or didn't say.

If you read the Politico article carefully, the authors did something similar to what I just did. Someone in Palin's PR unit apparently failed Eng 100, and complained. The Politico editors took a look, and conceded the sentence was ambiguous. So, rather than go through all the gyrations I just did to explain, they issued a correction.
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Old 06-10-2011, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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No, Sanrene it doesn't. Here is an example:

I bet if I told you , "Sanrene, you are a closet leftie", you'd say something like "I am not, you lying commie @#$%^^!!!"

There, see? Quotation marks all over the place. But no one who can read could possibly confuse what I wrote with anything YOU actually said or didn't say.
In the context of what they wrote, it certainly does.

Let's see - the editors of Politico DISAGREE with you. Who to believe? Actual journalists/editors or....an anonymous internet poster?

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If you read the Politico article carefully, the authors did something similar to what I just did. Someone in Palin's PR unit apparently failed Eng 100, and complained. The Politico editors took a look, and conceded the sentence was ambiguous. So, rather than go through all the gyrations I just did to explain, they issued a correction.
Apparently, you can't even get this right.

Here's what the editors said;

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/u...correction.jpg

They didn't "concede" anything. They admitted it was a FALSE ATTRIBUTION to Palin.
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Old 06-10-2011, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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In the context of what they wrote, it certainly does.

Let's see - the editors of Politico DISAGREE with you. Who to believe? Actual journalists/editors or....an anonymous internet poster?



Apparently, you can't even get this right.

Here's what the editors said;

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/u...correction.jpg

They didn't "concede" anything. They admitted it was a FALSE ATTRIBUTION to Palin.
Politico's editors are wrong.

Let's try this again. Here's the offending segment from the article:
Palin’s bus tour had some of the hallmarks of a primal scream: “I built this constituency, not Bachmann, not anyone else.” Looking at it through her eyes, she has a point.
Get it? THE BUS TOUR HAD SOME OF THE HALLMARKS OF A PRIMAL SCREAM. Then, the words in quotes are what the authors IMAGINE Palin's primal scream to be: "I built this constituancy..." etc. They follow up by saying, "Looking at it through her eyes, she has a point"

Admitedly this is clummsy writing. It is understandable that someone reading it quickly (or someone reading it slowly, with poor reading skills)might miss the fact that A) It is not a quote attributed to Palin, and B) The authors never intended it to be attributed to her.

Look, let's apply Occam's Razor-what is the simplist explanation? Do you really think two writers would deliberately put false words in Palin's mouth? In an article that appears in Politico? Palin??? Do you think they were just hoping she wouldn't notice? (fat chance)

Or, is it more likely that, the authors wrote a couple of poorly thought out sentences? (That they'll probably regret for the rest of their lives)

The Politico's correction goes too far. It confesses to something that didn't happen. Maybe whoever issued it didn't even read the article. Maybe it's just a pro-forma they use to cover accusations of misquoting. Maybe they don't feel like a long explanation (like mine) is worth the effort. But like I said, anyone with adequate reading skills can see what happened here.

This is a case of crummy writing/editing- not a left-wing conspiracy to smear Saint Sarah the Perpetually Butt-hurt.

I know how the Political editors feel. But, unlike them, I refuse to give up on you guys! No, don't thank me...
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