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Old 06-13-2011, 05:01 PM
 
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1800 President John Adams was accused of employing his vice-president as a pimp in order to procure women from Europe for the both of them. Lost the election but not due to the allegations. Adams also had a habit of skinny dipping with female reporters in the Potomac.

1804 Thomas Jefferson was openly labeled a libertine who tried to seduce the wife of a close friend, had two illicit affairs with married women while serving as a diplomat in Paris, all of this without mentioning the allegation of affairs with his slave Sally Hennings. Didn't keep him from being elected.

Andrew Jackson was accused of being a home wrecker and married his wife before her divorce was settled.

James Buchanan was long rumored to have a long time homosexual relationship with William Rufus King who was openly referred to around Washington as Buchanan's "better half", "his wife" and "Aunt Fancy"

Grover Cleveland admitted to fathering the child of a prostitute and went on to be elected President twice.

Woodrow Wilson was accused of dating Edith Bolling Galt just seven months after the death of his first wife leading the pundits of the day to insinuate that the affair had begun much earlier.

Warren Harding had at least two different long-lasting intimate relationships: Harding's political advisers bribed one of the women with cash and an all-expenses paid vacation abroad with her husband to be out of the country during the campaign of 1920; Harding himself financially supported a child whom his second mistress claimed was the Presidentâs and, from the White House, and stayed closely in touch with her through a Secret Service agent.

FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT: FDR's affair with Lucy Mercer was discovered by his wife Eleanor in 1918. Roosevelt agreed to end the affair, but the romance began anew sometime later and continued while he was president. Mercer was with Roosevelt when he died in Warm Springs, Georgia in 1945, but this (like the affair itself) was kept hidden until much later.

DWIGHT EISENHOWER: While fighting World War II in Europe, Eisenhower allegedly began an affair with his driver, Kay Summersby. The story goes that Ike planned to divorce his wife Mamie and marry Summersby; his superior, General George Marshall, quashed the plan by threatening to bust him out of the army. The rumor stayed mostly under wraps until 1975, when Summersby wrote a controversial book titled Past Forgetting: My Love Affair with Dwight D. Eisenhower.

No need to recount the affairs of JFK.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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1980's - Greed, A-OK. Sex? ZOMG!!
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:11 PM
 
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I don't think it's a matter of anyone becoming more prudish, but we have created more ways to embarass ourselves and at some point the general public is going to say "stop it now". Plus in the past these indiscretions weren't as commonly known, OR PUBLIC, as things are today.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:13 PM
 
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1980's - Greed, A-OK. Sex? ZOMG!!
Greed - What losers attribute to winners who achieve a level of success they themselvea can only dream of.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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It's not the sex as much as it is the fact the guy has no morals or values. He lied about the mess until he was backed into a corner he knew he couldn't get out of, otherwise he would still be sticking with his lies.
You can't have a in his position who can't be trusted. You can bet the creep doesn't just forget his morals and tell lies after five o'clock when he is off the clock. Any time he finds it neccessary, he will lie, even if it has to do with the nations business. He has proven he will lie if it suits him. We don't need those kind of people in office. There are a few dozen more that lie just as much and should be booted also........
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:17 PM
 
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Greed - What losers attribute to winners who achieve a level of success they themselvea can only dream of.
No, an unseemly desire for money or other goods belonging to others. See also: covet.

Your facile snark is, more often than not, incorrect.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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I think this country has always been a bit "prudish" in that we have always placed a high value on marital fidelity, especially for those in positions of public trust. Europeans don't seem to care much if their elected officials have extramarital laisons.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:22 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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1800 President John Adams was accused of employing his vice-president as a pimp in order to procure women from Europe for the both of them. Lost the election but not due to the allegations. Adams also had a habit of skinny dipping with female reporters in the Potomac.

1804 Thomas Jefferson was openly labeled a libertine who tried to seduce the wife of a close friend, had two illicit affairs with married women while serving as a diplomat in Paris, all of this without mentioning the allegation of affairs with his slave Sally Hennings. Didn't keep him from being elected.

Andrew Jackson was accused of being a home wrecker and married his wife before her divorce was settled.

James Buchanan was long rumored to have a long time homosexual relationship with William Rufus King who was openly referred to around Washington as Buchanan's "better half", "his wife" and "Aunt Fancy"

Grover Cleveland admitted to fathering the child of a prostitute and went on to be elected President twice.

Woodrow Wilson was accused of dating Edith Bolling Galt just seven months after the death of his first wife leading the pundits of the day to insinuate that the affair had begun much earlier.

Warren Harding had at least two different long-lasting intimate relationships: Harding's political advisers bribed one of the women with cash and an all-expenses paid vacation abroad with her husband to be out of the country during the campaign of 1920; Harding himself financially supported a child whom his second mistress claimed was the Presidentâs and, from the White House, and stayed closely in touch with her through a Secret Service agent.

FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT: FDR's affair with Lucy Mercer was discovered by his wife Eleanor in 1918. Roosevelt agreed to end the affair, but the romance began anew sometime later and continued while he was president. Mercer was with Roosevelt when he died in Warm Springs, Georgia in 1945, but this (like the affair itself) was kept hidden until much later.

DWIGHT EISENHOWER: While fighting World War II in Europe, Eisenhower allegedly began an affair with his driver, Kay Summersby. The story goes that Ike planned to divorce his wife Mamie and marry Summersby; his superior, General George Marshall, quashed the plan by threatening to bust him out of the army. The rumor stayed mostly under wraps until 1975, when Summersby wrote a controversial book titled Past Forgetting: My Love Affair with Dwight D. Eisenhower.

No need to recount the affairs of JFK.
That is funny, it is amazing what we find in the past if we look.

The reason this stuff is such a big deal today is because these topics are easy for people to debate. It doesn't really take a lot of critical thinking to toss rhetorical statements back and forth to each other.

Just repeat Team ones talking points, wait for Team twos formulaic response that includes an example of what a member of team one has done. Team one gives a formulaic response how their members action is different, then tosses in a diversion point. Rinse and repeat.
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:39 PM
 
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we have always placed a high value on marital fidelity, especially for those in positions of public trust. Europeans don't seem to care much if their elected officials have extramarital laisons.
: smack:

I post a list of sexual peccadillos starting with the 2nd President of the United States up to an including JFK all of whom were elected at a time when these scandals were widely known, used against them in political campaigns and the only thing that happened was that they were elected to the office of the Presidency, and despite that you right that we've "always placed a high value on marital fidelity"!
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:56 PM
 
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I think all public officials should have as many affairs as possible. That way they will be less stressed and can better concentrate on governing.
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