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Old 06-14-2011, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Race is an artificial construct.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:44 PM
 
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The premiss is so wrong on so many levels...
"In general, species interbreed. It's mutations that adapt to the environment that evolve species, not interbreeding.
Sorry it was suppose to be "don't interbreed", still maybe no more less disturbing.

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You make it sound that one day there is species A and sometime overnight there appeared mutation B and once mutation B appeared all sexual activity between group A and group B came to a crashing halt despite the fact that geographic isolation plays a huge and crucial part in the development specification, not some sort of perceived discrimination.
Work with me here, I'm just proposing a question, something more than the usual Palin thread.


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Ah, since humans are all members of the same species where does discriminatory DNA come into play????
I'm not sure. I'm thinking it would be perception.Maybe darker skin left a stigmata of slave laborer or lighter skin left the stigmata of unhealthy, maybe even hemophiliac.


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Not as long as people are home schooled or believe in intelligent design we will be saddled with these addled brained hypotheses.
You really think a "social" schooling or the abolition of religion will get rid of the differences we have? What IQ level will people realize it's just us and the planet, no gods? If they do realize that, what's to keep the planet from anarchy?
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:47 PM
 
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Race is an artificial construct.
I believe that too.

I've tried to convey such messages in the past although probably not successful.

I started with "Adam" and "Eve" who were most likely born in Africa and most likely of the darker decent.

Well the supposed dominant race these days are white which meant the human had to evolve to that sort of climate.

That doesn't mean that whitey runs things for all time though and it shows how little of importance race is anyways.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:49 PM
 
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^^ Well, whaddya know? We agree on something!
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:52 PM
 
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you do understand that black people, white people etc. Are all the same species right?
Of course. I also understand there are underlying things that drive psychologies of different races. It appears you knocked your brain our of your ear.
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:16 PM
 
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Sorry it was suppose to be "don't interbreed", still maybe no more less disturbing.
Don't worry about it, I still understood your point, I think.

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Work with me here, I'm just proposing a question, something more than the usual Palin thread.
I honestly would love to work with you on a conceptual argument, the only problem is that your hypothesis is so off that there isn't much to work with.


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I'm not sure. I'm thinking it would be perception.Maybe darker skin left a stigmata of slave laborer or lighter skin left the stigmata of unhealthy, maybe even hemophiliac.
Well I'm absolutely positive that darker skin had no such stigmata until the attempt to rationalize racism in the 18th century when pseudo scientist developed an "biological" construct of race.

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You really think a "social" schooling or the abolition of religion will get rid of the differences we have? What IQ level will people realize it's just us and the planet, no gods? If they do realize that, what's to keep the planet from anarchy?
I would never call for the abolition of religion, and even if I would I don't think that would be the answer unless I could pick and choose which sects to abolish.. but I digress. Yes, I do believe that proper education in the biological sciences would go a long ways in solving a great deal of our problems. As for the IQ level needed to realize that it is just on this planet I sometime think that the idiot savant is leagues ahead of most of the population.

As for no gods to keep the planet from being in a state of anarchy? Humans did pretty damned well before the invention of religion.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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This is logical. Men are from Mars and women are from Venus.

[shrug]
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:25 PM
 
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That post is so ignorant in regards to biology and psychology I just...
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:28 PM
 
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In general, species don't interbreed.

America is the first real experiment of the mingling of races, it's no surprise it's rather tenacious and vitriolic.
All humans, regardless of color or race belong to the same species.

Your thread has failed, anyone who has taken 9th grade biology could see that.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:32 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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For discussion purposes.

In general, species don't interbreed. It's mutations that adapt to the environment that evolve species, not interbreeding.

So is prejudice built into our DNA, maybe as a survival technique?

Is it possible to ever understand this and move past it?

America is the first real experiment of the mingling of races, it's no surprise it's rather tenacious and vitriolic.
Wow. First of all, your suggestion that prejudice would be a "survival technique" is highly dubious and unscientific - to put it mildly. Furthermore, you have no evidence that prejudice is even a genetic characteristic. So basically, your entire premise seems to be pretty misguided. It appears to be a veiled attempt to broadcast some of your personal beliefs.
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