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Old 06-14-2011, 08:39 PM
 
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For discussion purposes.

In general, species don't interbreed. It's mutations that adapt to the environment that evolve species, not interbreeding.

So is prejudice built into our DNA, maybe as a survival technique?

Is it possible to ever understand this and move past it?

America is the first real experiment of the mingling of races, it's no surprise it's rather tenacious and vitriolic.

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Old 06-14-2011, 08:47 PM
 
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Can we agree that nature is the most efficient process improver in all of history?

I learned in Six-Sigma that continual process improvement is absolutely important.

I continually keep seeing economics, politics, education, energy, geology et al. in the terms of evolution and the natural push for continued adaption and improvement.
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:50 PM
 
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Prejudice is a learned cultural trait. Nothing genetic about it.

And species usually can't interbreed - the genetic sequence differences between species is usually too different for a successful pair-up.
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:55 PM
 
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Prejudice is a learned cultural trait. Nothing genetic about it.

And species usually can't interbreed - the genetic sequence differences between species is usually too different for a successful pair-up.
Re-read your statement.

The natural tendency then would be to stay away or make a reason that you wouldn't need to be around them since breeding is the drive behind evolution.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:02 PM
 
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Whatever traits that enable us to adapt and survive continue, the others slowly fade. Being prejudice may have played apart in our ancestors survival and the extinction of other homanids like the neanderthals. Our species has only been on the planet for a cosmic mili-second. Our brains got bigger but some of the barbaric traits of our not so distant ancestors live on. Shoot, we still got tailbones and about 1% of humans are still born with functional tales among other things.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Species can't interbreed. If they could, they wouldn't be different species.

Very few human behaviors are genetically determined. As we evolved larger and larger brains, we needed to deliver our children earlier in their developmental process so that big brain could still fit through the birth canal. The human infant is equivalent to a fetus in most other large mammals. While insitinctive behaviors are important to a newborn horse or whale... only a handful are useful to a newborn human.

As a result, rather than depending on now useless instincts to drive behavior we depend instead on learned behaviors acquired over our long childhood. Almost all human social behaviors are learned.

Prejudice is almost certainly among them.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:30 PM
 
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The premiss is so wrong on so many levels...
"In general, species interbreed. It's mutations that adapt to the environment that evolve species, not interbreeding."
You make it sound that one day there is species A and sometime overnight there appeared mutation B and once mutation B appeared all sexual activity between group A and group B came to a crashing halt despite the fact that geographic isolation plays a huge and crucial part in the development specification, not some sort of perceived discrimination.

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So is prejudice built into our DNA, maybe as a survival technique?
Ah, since humans are all members of the same species where does discriminatory DNA come into play????

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Is it possible to ever understand this and move past it?
Not as long as people are home schooled or believe in intelligent design we will be saddled with these addled brained hypotheses.

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America is the first real experiment of the mingling of races, it's no surprise it's rather tenacious and vitriolic.
That will come as news to the ancient world. As for the experiment, the experiment that is American in nature is not even a century old.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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For discussion purposes.

In general, species don't interbreed. It's mutations that adapt to the environment that evolve species, not interbreeding.

So is prejudice built into our DNA, maybe as a survival technique?

Is it possible to ever understand this and move past it?

America is the first real experiment of the mingling of races, it's no surprise it's rather tenacious and vitriolic.
you do understand that black people, white people etc. Are all the same species right?
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:36 PM
 
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Species can't interbreed. If they could, they wouldn't be different species.

Very few human behaviors are genetically determined. As we evolved larger and larger brains, we needed to deliver our children earlier in their developmental process so that big brain could still fit through the birth canal. The human infant is equivalent to a fetus in most other large mammals. While insitinctive behaviors are important to a newborn horse or whale... only a handful are useful to a newborn human.

As a result, rather than depending on now useless instincts to drive behavior we depend instead on learned behaviors acquired over our long childhood. Almost all human social behaviors are learned.

Prejudice is almost certainly among them.
I'm curious about how you came to the conclusion that the size of the human brain was a driver. Can you provide a link or something for evidence?
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:40 PM
 
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