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Old 07-09-2011, 06:55 AM
 
Location: The Twilight Zone
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There never was a recovery. Spending government money and bailing out everyone and anyone is not a recovery. But it got the GDP numbers to where the economists said the recession was over in 2009.

We've been in a depression and I see no light at the end of the tunnel.

Ditto

This is getting worse than I ever thought it would. We all knew liberal policies don't work. Now we are showing America just how destructive they really are.
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Old 07-09-2011, 07:07 AM
 
Location: The Twilight Zone
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This is going to be the death knell for the Obama presidency. The party was kind of fun while it lasted.

No recovery = No re-election. Bye-bye Barrack.
Unfortunately the lame stream media will never be honest and will prop up Odumbo. That and the fact that the American voter can be pretty clueless. They believe the fear mongering campaign the democRAT party uses all the time. Oh poor grandma and grandpa nonsense. The democRAT party has used that for years, along with race baiting and has been successful in doing so. Now we find ourselves in this mess created by the liberals.
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Old 07-09-2011, 07:15 AM
 
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They believe the fear mongering campaign the democRAT party uses all the time. Oh poor grandma and grandpa nonsense.

I'm on track to get $900 a month from Social Security. Take that away and I'm in deep doo doo. Poor grandpa, that will be me in a few years.b

What's that you say, I should have saved for retirement? How much do you realistically expect people to save on a $15K income?
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Old 07-09-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm on track to get $900 a month from Social Security. Take that away and I'm in deep doo doo. Poor grandpa, that will be me in a few years.b

What's that you say, I should have saved for retirement? How much do you realistically expect people to save on a $15K income?
In your case that's exactly what SS was supposed to do for you..provide you with a supplemental income stream.

SS needs to be looked at and reformed. It was expanded over the years and now includes people who have not worked and are not retired..like kids for example (nearly $3 billion per month is paid out to children from SS).

I'm of the opinion that if you put into SS then you are entitled to get back your money that the government took from you and told you they would invest (not spend) and give back to you when you retired.
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Old 07-09-2011, 07:29 AM
 
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Unemployment Rises To 9.2% There is no "recovery." Period.


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Hope and Change

It really begs the question as to who was dumb enough to vote for a community organizer with no executive experience and an anti-buisness stance? The nation who collectively voted for Obama deserves the misery he is metering out to the nation. The very same people who voted for him are suffering the most from his ineptitude. We, "the rich", are relatively unaffected by his failed policies, but look upon the huge debt problem he has created (and ignored) as a long term threat to our children and the nation.

Obama will clearly go down in history as the worst president of the US. He will unseat Jimmy Carter for that "honor" and will cure the nation of these insane leftist, Keynesian economic policies, for many years to come. Unfortunately, austerity for decades will be the price of the Obama presidency and the free spending democratic congress of Pelosi (what were they thinking by making her speaker of the House?).
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Old 07-09-2011, 07:31 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Hope and Change

It really begs the question as to who was dumb enough to vote for a community organizer with no executive experience and an anti-buisness stance? The nation who collectively voted for Obama deserves the misery he is metering out to the nation. The very same people who voted for him are suffering the most from his ineptitude.
I would just love to see you go to the unemployment office and tell them that they deserve being unemployed. I doubt you have the guts to do that though. You really make the conservatives on this forum look bad.
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Old 07-09-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Hope and Change

It really begs the question as to who was dumb enough to vote for a community organizer with no executive experience and an anti-buisness stance? The nation who collectively voted for Obama deserves the misery he is metering out to the nation. The very same people who voted for him are suffering the most from his ineptitude.
Obama promised something to every single group out there.
And they bought it up lock, stock and barrel.
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:10 AM
 
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Hope and Change

It really begs the question as to who was dumb enough to vote for a community organizer with no executive experience and an anti-buisness stance? The nation who collectively voted for Obama deserves the misery he is metering out to the nation. The very same people who voted for him are suffering the most from his ineptitude. We, "the rich", are relatively unaffected by his failed policies, but look upon the huge debt problem he has created (and ignored) as a long term threat to our children and the nation.

Obama will clearly go down in history as the worst president of the US. He will unseat Jimmy Carter for that "honor" and will cure the nation of these insane leftist, Keynesian economic policies, for many years to come. Unfortunately, austerity for decades will be the price of the Obama presidency and the free spending democratic congress of Pelosi (what were they thinking by making her speaker of the House?).

LOL I don't know who you know who voted for Obama that's "suffering"...BUT my neighbors aren't suffering, my parents and my in-laws aren't suffering... The right's extreme dislike for Obama causes extreme exaggeration as well. But I digress, what are you doing to fix it aside from chucking blame on the internet and assuming that any ONE party deserves to bear the brunt of this entire situation that's been YEARS and ADMINISTRATIONS in the making???

Look at the WORLD around you S#!^ is messed up everywhere...
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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I'm on track to get $900 a month from Social Security. Take that away and I'm in deep doo doo. Poor grandpa, that will be me in a few years.b

What's that you say, I should have saved for retirement? How much do you realistically expect people to save on a $15K income?
So let me get this straight, YOU settled for $15K a year income, and somehow, its my fault and we should pay you because you didnt earn more? Tell me one thing, in your 60+ years of live, how much DID you save?
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So let me get this straight, YOU settled for $15K a year income, and somehow, its my fault and we should pay you because you didnt earn more? Tell me one thing, in your 60+ years of live, how much DID you save?
In all fairness freemkt contributed to SS. Whether he earned $15K or $150K he still deserves his SS. And what you get in SS is based on what you earned during your working years. We need all kinds of workers in this world, not everyone can be white collar with 401Ks and investment accounts and such.

He's not complaining about how much he's getting mind you.
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