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Old 07-18-2011, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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What's wrong with genetically modified crops? Humans have been genetically modifying things ever since we figured out how to do it. The sweet corn on the cob I had for dinner definitely isn't the Mexican maize that its genes came from.

Instead of altering the genetic code by plant grafting Monsanto alters the code using a test tube.
Why don't you study the subject? This isn't about hybridization of plants ... this is about mixing cockroach and spider genes into tomato plants, and creating plants that produce pesticides without the proper safety testing. These actions by Monsanto are a direct attack on our biosphere ... and with natural cross pollination, they are unleashing an uncontrollable monster which threatens all humans and animals alike.

This is probably THE greatest demonstration of corporate genocide that exists today.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 09:00 AM
 
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Post the court cases.

Sorry, but every time I have read about a farmer being sued for patent infringement. It usually comes out that they have intentionally started to harvest the seeds themselves. It's never that "the wind blew pollen" onto their field when it comes down to the real reason they are being sued.
that has been my experience also..

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Off the top of my head..no.
But I've been following this for some time now since I live in farm country.
I keep tabs on what's going on because I do grow and have livestock.
Granted it's on a small scale but what the big farmers around me plant can have a direct effect on me and I wouldn't even know it.
is there any instance of monsanto targeting a tiny operation such as the one you have?
 
Old 07-18-2011, 09:00 AM
 
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Post the court cases.

Sorry, but every time I have read about a farmer being sued for patent infringement. It usually comes out that they have intentionally started to harvest the seeds themselves. It's never that "the wind blew pollen" onto their field when it comes down to the real reason they are being sued.
That's total hogwash .... NOBODY but the big agricultural corporations want anything to do with Monsanto's poisons .... and the unwanted and undesirable contamination of non-GMO crops with pollen from GMO crops is a scientific fact.

Monsanto vs Schmeiser

Furthermore .... tossing a handful of GMO seed into one corner of a Farmer's 1000 acre field at night is all too easy to do ... and the corruption of the courts are providing cover for these criminals.

What needs to happen is that the public needs to reactivate a few brain cells, and support our farmers. These genocidal maniacs at Monsanto need to be stopped.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 10:49 AM
 
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There is a growing movement of people growing their own heirloom veggies & fruits, to escape the dangers of these GMO crap crops, & also to get away from the poisonous Round-Up.

Public kept in the dark on Roundup link with birth defects - new report

We need to start thinking long & hard at what's happening in the environment, as the Powers That Be are the ones calling the shots. The guy w/ the most $$, wins, NOT the citizens. They're using us as their lab rats, to add to their fortunes.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 11:56 AM
 
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Post the court cases.
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Originally Posted by uggabugga View Post
if it's the exception rather than the rule, show us 'rule' examples.
Here's one:

The Conflict

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Percy Schmeiser
A long time farmer and farm equipment dealer from the small rural community of Bruno Sask. He served as Mayor of the Town of Bruno from 1966-1983 and as a MLA (Member of the Legislative Assembly) for the Watrous constituency in the Provincial Legislature from 1967-71.
Excerpt from Aug 14, 1999 Vancouver Sun article by Dave Margoshes
"Percy Schmeiser was mad as hell, and decided he wasn't going to take it.
Schmeiser has been growing canola -- the yellow-blossomed oilseed that used to be known as rapeseed -- for 40 years, and he knows his stuff. He's been experimenting, developing his own varieties, using his own seed and generally prospering with canola. reaping the benefits derived from growing an increasingly popular crop.
So when Monsanto, the giant multinational agro-chemical company that is at the forefront of developing genetically modified foods, accused him of patent infringement and demanded restitution for its seeds, his pride was hurt. He chose to fight rather than roll over and take it."
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Sorry, but every time I have read about a farmer being sued for patent infringement. It usually comes out that they have intentionally started to harvest the seeds themselves. It's never that "the wind blew pollen" onto their field when it comes down to the real reason they are being sued.
Since you seem to have such a difficult time grasping the concepts, I'll lay it out for you:

1) Lord God Most High Monsanto Ruler of Heaven and Earth suspects a farmer is using their patented seeds.

2) Lord God Most High Monsanto Ruler of Heaven and Earth then applies for a search warrant to Lord God Most High Monsanto Ruler of Heaven and Earth.

3) Lord God Most High Monsanto Ruler of Heaven and Earth then approves the search warrant it applied for.

4) Lord God Most High Monsanto Ruler of Heaven and Earth then flies over the suspected crop field and sprays it with Round-Up.

5) If the crop lives, Lord God Most High Monsanto Ruler of Heaven and Earth sues the farmer and take everything.

6) If the crops die, Lord God Most High Monsanto Ruler of Heaven and Earth does absolutely nothing...

...and the farmer who had his crops destroyed gets nothing for his losses. The farmer just has to eat it (no pun intended).

This is a regular practice in South American and Africa.

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How are they supposed to prevent their fields from contamination with Monsanto seeds?
They aren't.

And that's the whole point. You will purchase your seed from Monsanto...or else.

Because Lord God Most High Monsanto Ruler of Heaven and Earth owns the US government, the US government will do nothing.

The only way to deal with this is through community action.

Unfortunately, any action take can be construed as "economic terrorism" under the Patriot Act that Barry Boy has continued to ram down everyone's throats.

If you organize a boycott of stores and producers of GM crops, you're a terrorist, if you organize an insurgency group to burn GM crop fields you're a terrorist.

And don't forget that as a terrorist, Barry Boy can assassinate you and he doesn't need a warrant, arrest or conviction.

In fact, doing anything contrary to "US interests" (whatever that means) is sufficient to get you assassinated.

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That is the point. That is what Monsanto wants to happen. The Farmers will be forced to buy their seeds.Also The farmers lose money with these crops. Since like it cost 2.50 to grow the corn but they can only sell it for 1.50. So what do you think the government will do to help the farmers?
US farmers will be doing what other farmers round the world have been doing: committing suicide when they lose their farms because they can't make any money using Monsanto seeds.

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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
Monsanto (as we know it) wouldn't exist without government protection.
That is absolutely correct.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 12:17 PM
 
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Here's one:

The Conflict
that's the same example that was previously discarded.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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Default Farmer to farmer: the truth about GM crops

Farmer to Farmer: The Truth About GM Crops (Video) | Food Freedom
 
Old 07-18-2011, 12:40 PM
 
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Farmer to Farmer: The Truth About GM Crops on Vimeo



Organic Elite Surrenders to Monsanto: Whole Foods Market okays GMO coexistence | Food Freedom

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In the wake of a 12-year battle to keep Monsanto’s Genetically Engineered (GE) crops from contaminating the nation’s 25,000 organic farms and ranches, America’s organic consumers and producers are facing betrayal. A self-appointed cabal of the Organic Elite, spearheaded by Whole Foods Market, Organic Valley, and Stonyfield Farm, has decided it’s time to surrender to Monsanto. Top executives from these companies have publicly admitted that they no longer oppose the mass commercialization of GE crops, such as Monsanto’s controversial Roundup Ready alfalfa, and are prepared to sit down and cut a deal for “coexistence” with Monsanto and USDA biotech cheerleader Tom Vilsack
 
Old 07-18-2011, 02:18 PM
 
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Heirlooms are indeed booming more than ever before. Why would you want this bio-engineered franken crap over historically heirloom crops.

Well usually cause you were given a misleading sales pitch. Just like they did in India.

The very telling thing is that they won't label the food and let the market sort it. They say the food isn't different. That is a lie. Otherwise it wouldn't have different proteins and wouldn't need a patent. If they are so proud of their product than they should have no worries bragging about how they feed the world.

Yet they also know that in surveys most people would opt out of GMO if they knew and had a choice.

So again the govt is directly complicit in such abuse.
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