Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-14-2011, 04:53 PM
 
1,019 posts, read 590,251 times
Reputation: 270

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost View Post
You're smart, you felt the need to do the math and delivered it with chest thumping to go with it.

Or, you could have just said... deductions as being one? But thank you for helping prove my point anyway. These people barely make enough, or do they just have too low of income tax rate that they fall under the baseline and either pay nothing or get back? Now, I'm sure you also know that plenty of millionaires end up being a part of the group that doesn't pay federal income tax. No?
Incomes that fall into this category range up to $45,000 pa for singles.
And no, it is not deductions, it is tax credits..

Last edited by LaTrang; 07-14-2011 at 05:12 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-14-2011, 04:55 PM
 
1,019 posts, read 590,251 times
Reputation: 270
Quote:
Originally Posted by GregW View Post
La Trang -

I propose a legitimate taxation system and all you can do is insult?

Note I said ALL INCOME FROM ALL SOURCES INCLUDING WAGES, BONUSES, STOCKS, DIVIDENDS, INTEREST, PROFIT ON REAL ESTATE SALES, INHERITANCES AND ANY OTHER SOURCES I MAY HAVE NOT MENTIONED.
You propose stupidity that is an insult to intelligence and morality. Fall off of that high horse bucko.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-14-2011, 04:58 PM
 
1,019 posts, read 590,251 times
Reputation: 270
Quote:
Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost View Post
I think you should keep your fantasies to self when responding to others. Having said that, you talk big using such words as "deserve". Who or what decides what one deserves? Although, I'm pretty sure you speak from experience, and that you've never thought... I deserve more/better?
I think you should keep you pipe dreams to yourself when responding to others. Having said that, "deserve" is determined by..........THE MARKET, whichis another way of saying every man, woman and child involved in the production, purchase and consumption of the product or service. It is the combined wisdom of all those "skin-in-the-game" players.

Economics 101 lesson for today over.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-14-2011, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Marion, IA
2,793 posts, read 6,124,101 times
Reputation: 1613
Wow. How so many blindly trust the government, especilly Obama, with more money even if it is from the "rich" is beyond me. What has Obama done positively with his access to our cash in the last 2 years. He's increased spending exponentially compared to 2008, yet the economy is in the sh*tter and is getting WORSE. UE benefits are running out and we are broke. Yet you people want to give more money to a guy with a record like that. Why??
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-14-2011, 05:00 PM
 
912 posts, read 1,332,202 times
Reputation: 468
Typical democrat excuse tax the rich.As if America has tons and tons of millionaire's or billionaire..China has them all....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-14-2011, 05:48 PM
 
3,045 posts, read 3,193,705 times
Reputation: 1307
Quote:
Originally Posted by zz4guy View Post
Or is that his excuse for not allowing spending cuts? Seems like this whole debt crisis would be over if we had a new president who was able to control spending. You really have to wonder why, by his own admission, he does something that could single handedly take down his presidency.

What is this guy hiding? What is his obsession with taxing the rich? The rich and corporations already pay the most income taxes by far than any other group and there isn't nearly enough money to make a dent in the defecit.
What is his issue with taxing himself and most of his friends? You'd feel better if he was lowering the taxes of his buddies? I'll actually be impacted by his tax changes. It will make little difference in my life. Lowering social security payments 10% to a little old lady who can barely feed herself will have a massive impact on her life. That's the difference.

Quote:
He's increased spending exponentially compared to 2008, yet the economy is in the sh*tter and is getting WORSE.
The bulk of the 'spending' is just people using programs that have been in place for a long, long time. Those programs were in place when Republicans had full control of the House, Senate and Presidency and they didn't change them. The huge deficit is made up mostly of decreased taxes and increased spending due to the state of the economy.

I feel sorry for you that you don't know enough to see that. Perhaps instead of writing angry posts on the internet, you could hit the library and start reading some books on economics.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-14-2011, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Dallas
31,290 posts, read 20,744,889 times
Reputation: 9325
Quote:
Originally Posted by zz4guy View Post
Wow. How so many blindly trust the government, especilly Obama, with more money even if it is from the "rich" is beyond me. What has Obama done positively with his access to our cash in the last 2 years. He's increased spending exponentially compared to 2008, yet the economy is in the sh*tter and is getting WORSE. UE benefits are running out and we are broke. Yet you people want to give more money to a guy with a record like that. Why??

Hope and change, baby! Hope and change!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-14-2011, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
5,800 posts, read 6,568,977 times
Reputation: 3151
Because he's a stupid Democrat, who like 99% of the rest of them, doesn't understand the correlation between tax rates & tax revenues; raise the former, and the latter collapses like mad, as several governors have found out over the years, most recently in Maryland.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-14-2011, 06:37 PM
 
48,502 posts, read 96,867,563 times
Reputation: 18304
Because two reson that are for one pruose. he knows that he has epnt himslef into a real corner in his defcit increased per cantages. he wants to raise taxes to ehlp get out but he alos needs over in makig a deal to cuts without take the blame hit he would fif he did it.At the mosr republicans can just offer to raise the debt ceiling ;no taxes or no cuts and leave him to stew.The same situation is what has keep democrats from having passed a budget even when they had full control.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-14-2011, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,495,743 times
Reputation: 27720
Who else is he going to get money from ...he won't dare go after corporates.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:11 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top