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Old 07-22-2011, 10:03 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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he he he heee he he . . you said ha"boob" - hee, hee, he, he, hee!
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:07 AM
 
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In any case I prefer the Hijazi Arabic term "Shamal" or the Maghrebi "Mariah*" to the rather silly sounding "Haboob".



* Bet you didn't know Carey shared a name with a North African wind storm did you?
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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How cute and "trendy" to use the arabic term, by the progressives. No doubt some attempt at appeasement. The intent, not the word itself, is what "critics" abhor. Look for more of the same. And I am not a "citizen of the world", as the article alludes. But am a proud citizen of the United States of America.
"Muslims, please like us! We'll use your words for dust storms, ok?"

What a ridiculous assertion. Languages borrow words from others all the time. "Tornado" comes from Spanish, must we insist we all say "twister" lest we be accused of trying to appease Hispanics?
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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I think they should call them Freedom Storms, that worked for french fries and toast.
Epic win
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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"Muslims, please like us! We'll use your words for dust storms, ok?"

What a ridiculous assertion. Languages borrow words from others all the time. "Tornado" comes from Spanish, must we insist we all say "twister" lest we be accused of trying to appease Hispanics?
Or we could call them "cyclones" in order to appease the Greeks.

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cyclone etymology
1848, coined by British East India Co. official Henry Piddington to describe the devastating storm of December 1789 in Coringa, India; irregularly formed from Gk. kyklon "moving in a circle, whirling around," prp. of kykloun "move in a circle, whirl," from kyklos "circle" (see cycle). Applied to tornados from 1856.

Source: Online Etymology Dictionary
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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I don't know if I am more bothered with the folks in the article making this fuss or with the many more people in this thread who agree with them.
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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This just seems extreme. I wouldn't go so far as to use the term racist, but xenophobic definitely.

However, I would like to here from people who have served in the Middle East feel about the use of this term.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/22/us/22haboob.html
Why would it be xenophobic to suggest it was wrong to use the term? Why would you use a foreign term in the way that it was used?
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:30 AM
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Why would it be xenophobic to suggest it was wrong to use the term? Why would you use a foreign term in the way that it was used?
You might want to rethink your use of the word xenophobic. It is not like someone created that word while riding on the Mayflower. I am sure that you can find a more patriotic, All-American substitue if you try.
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Given the xenophobic wave in Arizona recently, this isn't a surprise. It's become a very narrow-minded state. I'd even call it reactionary at this point.

The word "monsoon" also has Arabic roots, yet Arizonans have used it to describe the rainy season in Arizona for as long as I can remember. Are they now going to be upset about that word too?
Yep, many Americans call any really rainy period a monsoon but it is said in a joking manner by most I ever hear using it. i have always thought that the monsoon is a completely Southeast Asian phenomenon but maybe I am wrong. I remember the huge monsoons that happened in China in 2006 and telling people that the Chinese government must have rented the terrible Bush-Cheney giant wind machine that was used to blow up the hurricanes in the Gulf states that summer.

I say that haboob will soon replace dust storm is it is allowed. I can safely say that the red dust storms we experienced in western Kansas in the mid and early 50s didn't blow up from some down draft. That dirt came up out of west Texas and Oklahoma and could be seen coming for over 24 hours.

However, since about 1 in 4 people in the world are Muslims maybe we better get started playing up to them early so they won't force us to be dhimmis when they take over the US.
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I'm a meteorologist. We have always called these haboobs, and it is nothing new.

This is just like that time social conservatives wanted to rename French fries to freedom fries. Ironically, when I was at the University of Arizona in 2008-2009, there was a cafeteria that still called them freedom fries. I didnt eat there again.
I bet they changed the name to french fries when you griped by not going back.
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