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If they are a racist group, who are they racist against?
I doubt I'll get an answer.
Pretty much anyone who isn't Mestizo or non-Black Hispanic. Of course, all of the organization's actions aren't ill-intentioned. However, I've been aware of their activities for at least two years now and they do come off as only for those who are Mestizo or non-Black Hispanic.
It's a power struggle. Those guys want power. Power in politics and society. Anyone that is not of "La Raza" is in the way.
Pretty much anyone who isn't Mestizo or non-Black Hispanic. Of course, all of the organization's actions aren't ill-intentioned. However, I've been aware of their activities for at least two years now and they do come off as only for those who are Mestizo or non-Black Hispanic.
It's a power struggle. Those guys want power. Power in politics and society. Anyone that is not of "La Raza" is in the way.
Are they racist against White Hispanics? Say like a German Argentinian?
Are they racist against White Hispanics? Say like a German Argentinian?
That's the thing, Hispanic can mean a lot of different things, but La Raza isn't really marketing to the whole Hispanic community. What I see is a catering to Mexican Americans.
So, yes, to follow up on your question. I think they would be "racist" or prejudice towrds the German-Argentinian. (Of course, we aren't talking about some AUTOMATIC, OUTWARD racism. When people talk about La Raza and racism, I don't think they mean that. I think it is the motives.) I say that because here in the U.S. (which is the base of La Raza, "NATIONAL Council of La Raza") a German-Argentinian would be seen as non-Hispanic because of our culture here. It shouldn't be that way, based on the so-called definition of "Hispanic," but that's how it is here.
I know some German Argentinians who travel and do business here. They would NOT be labeled as Hispanics here in my area. I'm not saying that they aren't, but I don't think La Raza is an organization for them even though technically they are Hispanic.
The majority of Americans do not want amenesty and want stronger border control and what does he do..KISS UP TO THEM with excuses about Congress and the Constitution being in his way.
What audacity..
Your so right, i cannot stand him kissing a--? gets my goat, and to this group, oh please. Why would anyone want this man to continue on, he does not share most of our sentiments.
Exactly. La Raza (The Race) only cares about and only looks out for one thing and that's the race of people they protect and promote.
Are'nt we all guilty of that in some form or another?
Take for example Jews, dont they have a tendency for looking after their own, First? look at how powerful they have become within the government establishments, their lobbying leverage, the amount of aide they recieve anually from the backs of regular middle class Americans, their grip on hollywood. These guys have a MUCH, MUCH bigger slice of the pie, and yet not heard anything about any problems they contribute? Is it because they too big fish to do anything about and so lets pick on the small not so well to do bunch of people? aka la raza?
Thats my Libertarian stand point of view, before you start bombarding me with liberals slurs.
That's the thing, Hispanic can mean a lot of different things, but La Raza isn't really marketing to the whole Hispanic community. What I see is a catering to Mexican Americans.
Mexican American isn't a race. There are White Mexicans, Arab Mexicans, Black Mexicans, and even Asian Mexicans. Even if it was, catering to a group doesn't make one racist. BET caters to Blacks, as does Ebony magazine, does that make them racist?
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So, yes, to follow up on your question. I think they would be "racist" or prejudice towrds the German-Argentinian.
So La Raza would be racist against Hispanics from Argentina. Ok
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I know some German Argentinians who travel and do business here. They would NOT be labeled as Hispanics here in my area. I'm not saying that they aren't, but I don't think La Raza is an organization for them even though technically they are Hispanic.
Well they are Hispanic. So La Raza, which you claim is only for Hispanics would not be for some Hispanics.
Mexican American isn't a race. There are White Mexicans, Arab Mexicans, Black Mexicans, and even Asian Mexicans. Even if it was, catering to a group doesn't make one racist. BET caters to Blacks, as does Ebony magazine, does that make them racist?
So La Raza would be racist against Hispanics from Argentina. Ok
Well they are Hispanic. So La Raza, which you claim is only for Hispanics would not be for some Hispanics.
I knew you were going to do this. You basically set me up to try to preach to me about "RACE" semantics. You know what you are doing and it isn't fair on a message board. It is really hard to type out all of the details and to make sure that someone understands what you are saying.
You really didn't even provide a necessary response. You asked me a question, I gave you an answer and then you posted my answer followed by, "OK." What is the point?
I KNOW the climate of the word "Hispanic" and I know how it is so misunderstood in the United States. I did my best to answer your question. I also know about Mexico and it's ethnic makeup. I don't need you to inform me of that. I had already said that I do feel that La Raza is not for Black Hispanics, so why would you inform me that Mexican Americans can be Black? I already stated that I think La Raza couldn't care LESS about Black Hispanics. I even mentioned that La Raza appears to be for Mestizos and non-Black Hispanics (spare me the semantics lesson about how Anglos can be considered Hispanic). You don't need to educate me on race or the usage of Hispanic. I particularly mentioned that Hispanic as a term is often misused.
BET featured shows that could be considered racists, yes.
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