Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-26-2011, 09:25 AM
 
1,123 posts, read 776,805 times
Reputation: 400

Advertisements

While any rational person I speak with despises the far left nyt editorial board for its pyschotic, lunatic ravings such as how NYS should actually RAISE its taxes, or its vitriolic hatred of israel, it is opinion writers there like roger cohen who represent the worst, most nauseating thoughts of this rag. The paper would be far more appealing if the entire main section that covers national/international news and editorial were no longer published.

That said, he is an example of cohen's latest idiotic column that I've torn apart:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/26/op...ml?ref=opinion

" No doubt, that is how Islamophobic right-wingers in Europe and the United States who share his views but not his methods will seek to portray Breivik."

So unlike terrorist muslims who far left morons like roger claim DON'T represent ALL muslims, a single lunatic gunman now represents all conservatives?

"Breivik is no loner. His violence was brewed in a specific European environment that shares characteristics with the specific American environment of Loughner: relative economic decline, a jobless recovery, middle-class anxiety and high levels of immigration serving as the backdrop for racist Islamophobia and use of the spurious specter of a “Muslim takeover” as a wedge political issue to channel frustrations rightward."

As typical of the far left psychotics, lie when need to. Breivak was of means, and Norway is the wealthiest country in the world. But why let facts get in the way of a left wing lunatic's anti-conservative screed?

"What has become clear in Oslo and on Utoya Island is that delusional anti-Muslim rightist hatred aimed at “multiculturalist” liberals can be just as dangerous as Al Qaeda’s anti-infidel poison: Breivik alone killed many more people than the four Islamist suicide bombers in the 7/7 London attack of 2005."

So, if a person with intelligence sees that the mass immigration of hostile muslims, unwilling to assimilate - that are causing most of the crime increase in their country - as a problem, they must be delusional? Or is it that roger, anyone who does not buy your unbelievable crap writings because they can think for themselves is "delusional"?

And he adds the laughably stupid line we see applied to Israel/arab conflicts, where the number of people killed on a side dictates who is "right" or "wrong."

" Breivik has many ideological fellow travelers on both sides of the Atlantic. Theirs is the poison in which he refined his murderous resentment. The enablers include Geert Wilders in the Netherlands..."

So again, anyone who wants to stop the muslim mass flow is "racist"? As expected from the far left, when the facts don't aid your argument, just toss the "racist" label...

" Muslims over the past decade have not done enough to denounce those who deformed their religion in the name of jihadist murder. Will the European and U.S. anti-immigrant Islamophobic crowd now denounce what Breivik has done under their ideological banner? I doubt it. We’ll be hearing a lot about what a loner he was."

Why should conservatives? He is one person, not a mass movement. When I see 400 million conservatives stand up and justify mass slaughter the way we see muslims do, THEN roger might have an argument.

" Huge social problems have accompanied Muslim immigration in Europe in recent decades, much greater than in the more open United States. There is plenty of blame to go around. Immigrants have often faced racism and exclusion. The values of Islam on women, on marriage and on homosexuality, as well as the very vitality of the religion, have grated on a secular Europe. The picture is not uniform — successful integration exists — but it is troubling."

So finally, at least the idiot admits that muslim immigration has been an issue - but dilutes his comment with "There is plenty of blame to go around." How can an informed person with brains say that - when the immigrants themselves openly declare their hatred for secular democracy? Why else would people like that be immigrating, unless it was to eventually overwhelm the host country?

" Nothing, however, can excuse the widespread condoning of an anti-Muslim racism once reserved for the Jews of Europe. Not on the weekend when Amy Winehouse, a Jewish girl..."

In a last grasp at trying to appeal to the cheap seats, he tosses the jew-race card trying to lap up some stupid sheep who might say, "yeah, that's right....didn't those euros once kill a lot of jews"? It has become clear to me that the intellectual level of people who read the other sections of the NYT absolutely dwarfs that who read and enjoy the opinion articles.

For those still on the fence over roger's intelligence and knowledge, look up his articles on iran - he is the leading light on what not to do regarding that country.

And despite the ravings of its fellow far leftist rag NY magazine, the NYT is not doing any better that it was a few years ago - I personally know at least a dozen people currently boycotting the times until its editorial board is revamped entirely. Financially on paper, it might have rescued itself, but until it begins to take a more mainstream position, it will continue to remain on life support.

G-d do I hate the NYT, rant over...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-26-2011, 09:27 AM
 
22,768 posts, read 30,748,463 times
Reputation: 14745
i don't share their views on many topics, but i still have to admit it's a quality paper. They might be biased, but they are typically very professional. By comparison it makes the Wall Street Journal look pretty bad.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-26-2011, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
39,875 posts, read 26,532,311 times
Reputation: 25777
The NY Times used to be a leading, respected news source. Now, it is little more than a leftist tabloid. Just how are their subscription numbers looking?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-26-2011, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
7,085 posts, read 12,060,763 times
Reputation: 4125
Why do you sit around reading and picking apart articles you hate?

Go outside and enjoy the world around you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-26-2011, 09:29 AM
 
22,768 posts, read 30,748,463 times
Reputation: 14745
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
The NY Times used to be a leading, respected news source. Now, it is little more than a leftist tabloid. Just how are their subscription numbers looking?
It seems like partisan crap is all people want to hear these days.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-26-2011, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Long Island
32,816 posts, read 19,500,230 times
Reputation: 9618
Quote:
Originally Posted by sterpetron View Post
its an OPINION
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-26-2011, 09:41 AM
 
10,494 posts, read 27,255,419 times
Reputation: 6718
They do not call them the toilet paper of record for nothing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-26-2011, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
13,138 posts, read 22,826,985 times
Reputation: 14116
Default The NY Times is so unbelievably awful

Take it (and all mass media for that matter) for what it's worth... it's just cheap "infotainment" for the masses.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-26-2011, 09:55 AM
 
1,123 posts, read 776,805 times
Reputation: 400
Quote:
Originally Posted by le roi View Post
i don't share their views on many topics, but i still have to admit it's a quality paper. They might be biased, but they are typically very professional. By comparison it makes the Wall Street Journal look pretty bad.
I disagree to a certain extent, but there are sections of the times that are well done like the ny/metro section, and sections of the WSJ (to that i suscribe) that are awful. But overall, can read the main section of the WSJ each day and skim the editorials and not toss my breakfast. I disagree with the editorial board of the journal on many issues such as immigration and corporatism, but at least its readable. I can barely stomach the times, it is built upon lie after lie...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-26-2011, 09:56 AM
 
1,123 posts, read 776,805 times
Reputation: 400
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
The NY Times used to be a leading, respected news source. Now, it is little more than a leftist tabloid. Just how are their subscription numbers looking?
Not good, they had to double their newstand price just to try and keep financially afloat. I give them 5-7 years before they go under.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top