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Old 07-28-2011, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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The couple have been married for 37 years and have six children together. Mr Chapti is an Indian national and does not speak, read or write English.
Mrs Chapti has reportedly been travelling between India and Leicester for around 15 years but has now applied for her husband to come and live in the UK with her.


Do you agree with her? that this is a human rights issue?

Absolutely not. What language you speak has nothing to do with human rights.
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:15 AM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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The couple have been married for 37 years and have six children together. Mr Chapti is an Indian national and does not speak, read or write English.
Mrs Chapti has reportedly been travelling between India and Leicester for around 15 years but has now applied for her husband to come and live in the UK with her.


Do you agree with her? that this is a human rights issue?
This is in the UK.

Their primary language is English.

Wife wants him to move there.

He should learn English.

PERIOD.

Where do they get off moving to a nation where they don't know the language? Because there's ghettos already set up there where they can live without learning the culture or language that's why. They do the same in the USA. I say that's COLONIZATION when you retain your culture and language 100% and refuse to learn the indigenous language of the nation you're living in.

NO they should be forced to learn English or GTFO.

They don't have to live there, nobody from the government invited them to live there, they choose to live there. You want to live in the UK? Learn ENGLISH!

Language preference isn't a human right because they CAN learn English and speak their Punjabi at home. It may be a human rights violation if they were forbidden to speak their native language even in private. Throw that case out of court.
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Someone putting us on?

Chapati and similar is an Indian flat bread.

There was an issue a few years back where the British required english skills and a certificate from some known cooking school to get a "chapati" cook into England.

On a marriage visa it should not be a problem. I believe the English have to follow european union rules.
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The couple have been married for 37 years and have six children together. Mr Chapti is an Indian national and does not speak, read or write English.
Mrs Chapti has reportedly been travelling between India and Leicester for around 15 years but has now applied for her husband to come and live in the UK with her.


Do you agree with her? that this is a human rights issue?
I don't agree with her but since the UK is under the jurisdiction of the EU Human Rights Courts, they have a good chance of winning. The court has been allowing violent immigrants in the UK to remain in the country because they have a right "to a family life". One case a man avoided deportation because of his pet.

She is now being denied the "right" to bring her husband into the country because they don't speak English. That won't fly with the far-left judges on the court.
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Absolutely not. What language you speak has nothing to do with human rights.
You'd be surprised what issues the Left have made into a human right. Last month the UN said access to the Internet is a human right.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/techn...-rights/38526/
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Wheres the link to the story?
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:38 PM
 
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Except that the individual is not a UK citizen.
Irrelevant in a free speech context.

And yes, it is a human rights issue...it's the government regulating expression.

I would rather refer to it as a civil rights issue, which doesn't carry quite the emotional impact of calling it a human right.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:40 PM
 
Location: California
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Irrelevant in a free speech context.
This isn't a free speech issue anyway.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:41 PM
 
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This isn't a free speech issue anyway.
How in the world can you conclude that, when it involves government regulation of HOW someone can express themselves?

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Old 07-28-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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It certainly violates the First amendment, unless someone can show me a compelling state interest - which outside of some very specific contexts, you aren't going to be able to do.

Failsauce.
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Ummm, you did notice that they are applying to the UK, right? There is no First Amendment in the UK. Nice job of actually reading.

Speaking of "Failsauce".
Not to mention that it's a stretch to say the least that this would violate the 1st Amendment were it an American issue.
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