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Old 07-29-2011, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Did the constituents of tea party candidates want to risk an international panic? Did they want to tie up the financial operations of the government so only debt and bonds would be paid off? Did they want to create a stock market dive that has already lost close to 600 points this week---and many more next with the comedic farce now underway?

Did their constituents want a phony balanced budget ammendment which will take years, at least, to be ratified while Rome burns??

The dye is cast---the zealots have intended to create a default all along, and if the country dives in the process, it is no big consequence to them. They are out to have their solution, irrespective of the polls which show 70% of the country feels they are off base.

Ok teazealots----lets have your default. According to your leaders the claims of a stock market dive, a US credit downgrade, international financial markets becoming very nervous, and a potential US recession are all phony claims. Lets play it your way---bring on the default.

You can than attempt to pin the blame game, and those with any common sense will laugh.

The bottom line is----you will ensure Obamas reelection and also the teabags having an expiration date.

Congratulations-----well played----idealogy and dogma win---the country loses.

I am not at all a liberal ----perhaps a moderate who believed that the legisltive leaders of this nation had enough common sense and creativity to avoid any self indulgent disasters. Well, looks like I was wrong----very sad indeed----yes zealots---the whole world is laughing as this mess could have simply been averted and the start to real debt reform could begin.
Now that Dirty Harry Reid and his people own the right to keep us from defaulting are you still blaming the Republicans? Oh yes, the Dems voted to a member to table the bill from the House today. What time on Sunday do you think they will vote on their own bill that should have been written long ago. Will they manage to keep Geithner and Obama from defaulting or not? What will Obama do with whatever the Senate sends him? Will he veto it because it is not 100% Democrat written as were his two signature bills, Stimulus and Obamacare? Oh yes he needs bills like that that went through without any Republican votes at all.
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Tea Partiers are like if the five gay students in the classroom who demand all the others in the room who demand all to adopt their lifestyle and world view. They are a minority, but you would never know it by their actions. EVERYONE should think just like them, or they will blow a gasket. What is admirable about that?
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:46 PM
 
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For once we have politicians actually standing by what they campaigned for and doing what the people who elected them want to be done. What do they get for it? Lambasted by both the Democrats and now Republicans because they won't lay over and sign off on this BS mess that is being offered up. So for not joining the fools running our country I say kudos to them. Keep up the good job. Anytime you get both sides (well they're one in the same actually) squealing at you means your not doing THEIR bidding but the bidding of the people. Odd isn't it they're actually doing what they're supposed to and that just makes no sense at all to those in power.
Oh, don't get me wrong, man. I completely agree with you and have all along: the Tea Party is indeed doing what their constituents want....and that's the problem. The constituents are stupid. As are those p i s s for brains "centrist" voters who never know whom they should vote for and whine and spout nonsense like "Gorsh, there they go agin'; they're all the same."

No, they're not the same. They just look the same to people who would rather watch Dancing With the Stars than keep up with the government that controls every aspect of their lives. We vote for this excrement and deserve to be swimming in the cesspit. I just feel sorry for the rest of us who actually do understand what's happening.
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:49 PM
 
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Oh, don't get me wrong, man. I completely agree with you and have all along: the Tea Party is indeed doing what their constituents want....and that's the problem. The constituents are stupid. As are those p i s s for brains "centrist" voters who never know whom they should vote for and whine and spout nonsense like "Gorsh, there they go agin'; they're all the same."

No, they're not the same. They just look the same to people who would rather watch Dancing With the Stars than keep up with the government that controls every aspect of their lives. We vote for this excrement and deserve to be swimming in the cesspit. I just feel sorry for the rest of us who actually do understand what's happening.


Michelle Bachmann and Obama are not "the same." One will SURELY destroy this nation in four years. The other is named Obama.
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:11 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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Now that Dirty Harry Reid and his people own the right to keep us from defaulting are you still blaming the Republicans? Oh yes, the Dems voted to a member to table the bill from the House today. What time on Sunday do you think they will vote on their own bill that should have been written long ago. Will they manage to keep Geithner and Obama from defaulting or not? What will Obama do with whatever the Senate sends him? Will he veto it because it is not 100% Democrat written as were his two signature bills, Stimulus and Obamacare? Oh yes he needs bills like that that went through without any Republican votes at all.
Reid and McConnell will be smart enough to craft a bill that will get through the Senate. Then the ball is back in the court of the House. Boehner can grumble about it, but his choice is to work to pass it and count whatever compromise was written into it as a victory or not get it passed and be the one to take the heat for whatever happens afterward. As far as the 60 Tea Party people, they can go off in a corner and chant or throw rocks or whatever. They can be marginalized. The 217 votes needed can come from the 375 House members, both Democrats and Republicans, who are not Tea Party Caucus members.
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:17 PM
 
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Now that one made me almost spit my drink on the keyboard. Traitors now? For trying to stop wreckless irresponsible spending that is sending our country down the tubes? What is a hero in your eyes? Somebody who spends their entire paycheck at the casino while their children starve?
They are not trying to stop spending , they are trying to be playground bullies! The debt ceiling has been raised over 30 times....its nothing, its not big deal...it has NOTHING to do with our INCURRING new debt. Raise the ceiling then get the Heck back to what you were put into office to do ACCORDING TO YOU!!!! JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, AND JOBS. That was your mandate. this debt ceiling red herring is to keep the Prez from being able to concentrate on jobs because the conversation keeps getting hijacked. We can cut spending, we can raise taxes, we can figure out the entitlement programs seperatly from the debt ceiling all in the next year before the election.....it doesn't and can't be taken care of in the couple days we have left and the house knows it won't get past the Senate. Its political theatre...nothing more.

You, the right wing conservatives and the teabags have ONE MANDATE AND ONE MANDATE ONLY. GET THE JOBS BACK INTO THE ECONOMY NOW!!!!!! That is what you were elected for.
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:21 PM
 
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Hmmm I remember democrats campaigning on that very same thing. I guess their actions to create jobs the previous two years got them kicked out eh? Or maybe folks just got tired of listening to their lies?

If jobs don't come back to this country, then it really doesn't matter who didn't do their jobs. We will be destroyed as a country. We will go into a depression that will make the last one look like a picnic and everyone can run around going its your fault....no no....its your fault.....no no...its your fault!

This is disgusting beyond belief.
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:22 PM
 
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we should support the tea party. looks like the republicans are giving in. we have another chance to send more tea party people to congress next year!!!

That will be the what will truly be happening. Not only will the Dems be sick to death of this group of traitors, the Rep will also.
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Hickory, NC
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They are not trying to stop spending , they are trying to be playground bullies! The debt ceiling has been raised over 30 times....its nothing, its not big deal...it has NOTHING to do with our INCURRING new debt.
Surely you jest. Take a look at every single time the debt ceiling has been raised. The debt level quickly reaches the ceiling, and then it must be raised again. Did you even stop to think WHY it has been raised "30" times?
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Old 07-29-2011, 09:25 PM
 
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They are not trying to stop spending , they are trying to be playground bullies! The debt ceiling has been raised over 30 times....its nothing, its not big deal...it has NOTHING to do with our INCURRING new debt. Raise the ceiling then get the Heck back to what you were put into office to do ACCORDING TO YOU!!!! JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, AND JOBS. That was your mandate. this debt ceiling red herring is to keep the Prez from being able to concentrate on jobs because the conversation keeps getting hijacked. We can cut spending, we can raise taxes, we can figure out the entitlement programs seperatly from the debt ceiling all in the next year before the election.....it doesn't and can't be taken care of in the couple days we have left and the house knows it won't get past the Senate. Its political theatre...nothing more.

You, the right wing conservatives and the teabags have ONE MANDATE AND ONE MANDATE ONLY. GET THE JOBS BACK INTO THE ECONOMY NOW!!!!!! That is what you were elected for.
If it's not a big deal then why does dirty harry reid keep screaming DOA all the time? It seems Obama and Boehner had this thing hashed out a few weeks back and then dirty harry and san fran nan stuck their noses into it.

Can't cut spending? Are you insane? LOL. Now its the tea party's fault there are no jobs? You really are one lost soul. Is that all the dems are going to do for the next year blame the tea party for all the ill's of the country? What happened to Hope and Change? LOL. Keep squealing some of your fellow haters might give you a rep.
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