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Obama does not stand a snowball's chance in hell of being re-elected. The economy and unemployment will still be in the tank. No independent will vote for him and assure four more years of economic misery. The left will vote for him no matter what, but that will not be enough votes to win an election.
You really have to quit counting the chickens before they hatch. This is a low point for Obama, but 18 months is an enternity. Your frontrunner acted like a total jerk during all of this... is that the kind of leadership we could expect from him? You guys need to get behind a viable candidate before you start planning on what color the drapes are going to be in the White House.
When Obama leaves office, will he become a bitter, brooding former president like Carter? It seems as though presidents who have met with failure have a hard time living with the mistakes they have made in their presidency and that is reflected in their sentiments from that time forward.
Assuming and counting chickens before they hatch; two classic ways to end up with egg on your face
Casper
Last edited by Casper in Dallas; 08-03-2011 at 01:57 PM..
Obama does not stand a snowball's chance in hell of being re-elected. The economy and unemployment will still be in the tank. No independent will vote for him and assure four more years of economic misery. The left will vote for him no matter what, but that will not be enough votes to win an election.
You are going to get a very rude wake up call in 2012. Enjoy your dreams until then
Casper
When Obama leaves office, will he become a bitter, brooding former president like Carter? It seems as though presidents who have met with failure have a hard time living with the mistakes they have made in their presidency and that is reflected in their sentiments from that time forward.
So who am I going to vote for? Bachmann??
haaaa..
I plan to vote for Ron Paul in 2012. If he doesn't make it, it's almost a certainty that I will vote for Obama.
Maybe it seems odd since their approach to a solution is so different, but my reasoning is that these two people have the best grasp on what the various problems are.
When Obama leaves office, will he become a bitter, brooding former president like Carter? It seems as though presidents who have met with failure have a hard time living with the mistakes they have made in their presidency and that is reflected in their sentiments from that time forward.
Hmm, I don't recall Jimmy Carter being bitter and brooding. Instead he dedicated his time to helping the poor via Habitat for Humanity.
Ford and Nixon both faded away into obscurity, where they very much belonged...Nixon lucky he didn't spend time in prison.
I plan to vote for Ron Paul in 2012. If he doesn't make it, it's almost a certainty that I will vote for Obama.
Maybe it seems odd since their approach to a solution is so different, but my reasoning is that these two people have the best grasp on what the various problems are.
"best grasp on what the various problems are"
I guess this "explains" why he has been so successful in reducing unemployment, reducing the debt, and keeping jobs in the US.
Insanity is when one repeats the same action, over and over again, depsite the lack of positive results.
I guess this "explains" why he has been so successful in reducing unemployment, reducing the debt, and keeping jobs in the US.
The flaw in your argument, hawkeye, is that we can only speculate what unemployment, debt, jobs, etc., would've looked like under another president, with different policies.
I'm sure you're convinced that the economy would be booming right now under McCain, but I'm not. Obama exceeded my expectations because I expected the worst for anyone who followed Bush.
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Insanity is when one repeats the same action, over and over again, depsite the lack of positive results.
i agree. a good example of insanity is voting GOP and expecting fiscal conservatism, which is what I did when I voted for Bush in 2004. I won't do it again.
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