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Old 08-06-2011, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Why not..she contributed to those programs didn't she ?
It's not the same as welfare and medicaid you know.
Well many of these people who haven't paid into SS for over 65 years like I have think me being against the abuse of it makes me wrong for taking from it. Hell, I have even been paying in to Medicare since its inception and most of them who come after me about that haven't even been around that long.
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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How is he bringing up race just by mentioning that fact that you guys always bring up race?
You know the methods Saul Alinsky proposed would go along with this kind of out of context crap and old Ghost tends to use that method all the time.
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Federal records obtained through a Freedom of Information act request confirm the Social Security benefits.

Tea Party Patron Saint Ayn Rand Applied for Social Security, Medicare Benefits | Firedoglake

Just another Tea Party hypocrisy at its very core.
Just another LW poster who has no clue what he's talking about.
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:13 PM
 
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Just another LW poster who has no clue what he's talking about.
Oh really? Let's see if I can match the informed and intelligent content of your post...

Ayn Rand and the budget battles in Congress

Paul Ryan (R-WI), Chair of the House Budget Committee. It seems that he counts himself among her disciples and likes her values.

More than that, she was become a philosophical beacon for many in the Tea Party Movement who -- like Ryan -- want draconian budget cuts (mostly affecting the poor and middle class) with nary a plan to raise any revenue, especially from the wealthy.

I note that many Catholics, and people of many faith traditions -- those concerned about social justice, have spoken out against both the Ryan Budget and the Ayn Rand philosophy which underlies it.

Rand's work stands as eloquent proof of John Galbraiths quote: "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
Ayn Rand and the budget battles in Congress | National Catholic Reporter

There..done...anymore informed comments and opinions to add? Please note, the operative word is "informed".


BTW...Why did Rand pay into a system that she deplored and demonized. She should have refused. Thoreau went to jail for his princilples. All Rand did was ***** about it and start a cult of idiots.

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Old 08-06-2011, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Nobody with a brain or with even half a brain is buying the Tea Party agenda as one that will benefit anyone or anything but the wealthy and Corporate America. Maybe it started out with good intentions at its roots, but it was hijacked by extremists and Neocons.

Selfishness is Being Idolized by the Tea Party as They Worship Their High Priestess Ayn Rand
Fighting Democrat: Restoring Truth and Justice in America: Selfishness is Being Idolized by the Tea Party as They Worship Their High Priestess Ayn Rand

What view are you referring to...BTW?
As I have said before, when libs feel threatened, they name call, spin and point fingers. Case in point.

And some leftie blog is not evidence of anything.
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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I have a question for all the lefties posting here: Have any of you actually read Atlas Shrugged or any other works of Rand's?
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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I have a question for all the lefties posting here: Have any of you actually read Atlas Shrugged or any other works of Rand's?
Why don't you post an excerpt proving her not to be the narccisist, selfish, mean spirited, demented ideologic cult leader that she was.
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Old 08-06-2011, 03:00 PM
 
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As I have said before, when libs feel threatened, they name call, spin and point fingers. Case in point.

And some leftie blog is not evidence of anything.
There are admitted Rand followers in governemnt and media on the right. What is there to point fingers at? They are self proclaimed.
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Old 08-06-2011, 03:07 PM
 
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Why don't you post an excerpt proving her not to be the narccisist, selfish, mean spirited, demented ideologic cult leader that she was.
so you want her to prove herself innocent? no go, sorry.

Can you post here proving Barack Obama isn't just another socialist tax and spend America hating Democrat?
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Old 08-06-2011, 03:21 PM
 
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so you want her to prove herself innocent? no go, sorry.

Can you post here proving Barack Obama isn't just another socialist tax and spend America hating Democrat?
Obama did not let the Bush Tax Cuts run out. He compromised and negotiated with the Tea Party Ayn Rand terrorists...that's why.

Prove whom "innocent"???
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