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Old 08-11-2011, 05:09 PM
 
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Is any one still hearing the things Obama is saying as an excuse for his lack of leadership?

-Bush is to blame
-I inherited this mess
-Earth quake Japan
-Bad economy in Europe
-etc.


Nowhere is Obama taking any responsibility...but that is not surprising.

But I wonder is anyone still listening to him, or is it like talking to a deaf person?

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Old 08-11-2011, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Well, most of it happens to be true. Should he claim responsibility for the housing bubble, or the Iraq War, or the Bush tax cuts, or the debt in Greece? Of course not, and no single president can fix such things.

He needs foremost to tell the truth the American people.
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:00 PM
 
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Well, most of it happens to be true. Should he claim responsibility for the housing bubble, or the Iraq War, or the Bush tax cuts, or the debt in Greece? Of course not, and no single president can fix such things.

He needs foremost to tell the truth the American people.
Frank/Dodd, 2 of his party members where too blame and he is just not doing anything about all the sweetheart deals they got...but what the heck, Obama himself got a sweetheart deal...wo what to expect from him!
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:03 PM
 
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Has Obama ever said anything about the AAA credit rating he inherited?.
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:04 PM
 
Location: The Brightest City On Earth
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Is any one still hearing the things Obama is saying as an excuse for his lack of leadership?

-Bush is to blame
-I inherited this mess
-Earth quake Japan
-Bad economy in Europe
-etc.


Nowhere is Obama taking any responsibility...but that is not surprising.

But I wonder is anyone still listening to him, or is it like talking to a deaf person?
I agree. He is just pathetic as a leader. God help us if he gets another term. I agree that Bush handed him a steaming pile of crap. He was handed a bad economy and made it a horrible economy. He was handed 2 wars and he gave us a 3rd war with Libya. He was handed a big deficit and he turned it into a massive deficit.
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:09 PM
 
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Well, most of it happens to be true. Should he claim responsibility for the housing bubble, or the Iraq War, or the Bush tax cuts, or the debt in Greece? Of course not, and no single president can fix such things.

He needs foremost to tell the truth the American people.
He can claim that 2.5 years of his programs have failed.

He did not inherit high unemployment.
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:12 PM
 
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I agree. He is just pathetic as a leader. God help us if he gets another term. I agree that Bush handed him a steaming pile of crap. He was handed a bad economy and made it a horrible economy. He was handed 2 wars and he gave us a 3rd war with Libya. He was handed a big deficit and he turned it into a massive deficit.
And he never lead anything...not even a sports team, a business, nothing!

So he never had the experience and someone telling him that the person in charge gets in the end the blame since the person who IS the LEADER is getting the "credit" in the end but if something goes wrong that person has to take the responsibility....Obama has to go back to school since he probably took a fun courses and never had a business course...

The law degree he got was only used in once case for Acorn...that is not really what we call "experience"....we don't even know if there were more lawyers involved so perhaps he was just on the case as an "intern".
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: The Brightest City On Earth
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Well, most of it happens to be true. Should he claim responsibility for the housing bubble, or the Iraq War, or the Bush tax cuts, or the debt in Greece? Of course not, and no single president can fix such things.

He needs foremost to tell the truth the American people.
What do you mean no single President can fix such things? As I recall, Ronald Reagan did a pretty decent job of cleaning up Carter's disasters. Yes, it took a nasty recession and a few years but Reagan turned it around. The difference is that he had a SPINE and Obama doesn't. Obama could have had us out of Iraq a year ago. He should have simply told the generals and the country we are no longer going to spend treasure and lives babysitting a country that cannot seem to get its politics in order. He should have had us on the way out of Afghanistan. The Taliban didn't attack us on 9-11 and the people who did are all dead or in Pakistan.
On the domestic front he could have had a bigger stimulus and a middle class tax cut of 50% for a year to put more money in people's pockets to get the economy moving. The fact is that tax cuts work and they do not hurt the revenues of the government because the economic activity always means MORE money in taxes is actually paid.
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Well, most of it happens to be true. Should he claim responsibility for the housing bubble, or the Iraq War, or the Bush tax cuts, or the debt in Greece? Of course not, and no single president can fix such things.

He needs foremost to tell the truth the American people.
And when he had control of both house and senate what was the focus?
Spend spend spend.
No thought to a balanced budget.
A health care bill that does little to address the rising cost of healthcare. We can pay for it later.
A billion to Haiti, 900 million to Palestine, Billions to Israel and all of it borrowed.
So now the answer is to raise taxes? We keep hearing thats a drop in the bucket, everything is a drop in the bucket. record pork another drop in the bucket. Those drops add up to a full bucket.
Mr President less effort on generating excuses and more on solutions.
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:18 PM
 
Location: The Brightest City On Earth
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And he never lead anything...not even a sports team, a business, nothing!

So he never had the experience and someone telling him that the person in charge gets in the end the blame since the person who IS the LEADER is getting the "credit" in the end but if something goes wrong that person has to take the responsibility....Obama has to go back to school since he probably took a fun courses and never had a business course...

The law degree he got was only used in once case for Acorn...that is not really what we call "experience"....we don't even know if there were more lawyers involved so perhaps he was just on the case as an "intern".
Well he did lead the Illinois Senate and he did a decent job there from what I have heard but leading the Illinois Senate and the USA are totally different things. I thought that he would be better than he has turned out to be.
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