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Old 08-24-2011, 07:27 PM
 
Location: 77441
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We should call chinas bluff.
We spent the entire cold war developing methods to kill troops in mass. We've never used these methods. Never needed to.

The biggest issue is our TelePrompTer reader in chief would spend his Time apologizing instead of killing.
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:28 PM
 
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The USSR matched the USA in the late 1960's and through the 1970's.

Probably why the USA did nothing.

I found it amusing that there were over 500,000 US troops in West Germany and the hope was they would last a week if the Warsaw Pact crossed over....

The USA isn't some invincible force,it is good but then it rarely fights anyone of the same caliber.

GWI was talked up but the Iraqi military wasn't worth much.

You really have no idea of what you're talking about.
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Old 08-24-2011, 09:49 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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You really have no idea of what you're talking about.
Uh huh.

I am sure you are one of those who thought that NATO was actually planning to win the war in europe with the troops deployed there.

They were speedbumps.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:01 AM
 
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Uh huh.

I am sure you are one of those who thought that NATO was actually planning to win the war in europe with the troops deployed there.

They were speedbumps.
lmao!

You have never served and would never serve even if it was like an alien invasion. Where even you would be needed. Why? Because you are a coward.

Those troops were more than just a speed bump. They were well-equipped and well-trained so much that they could have brought a stale-mate with the Warsaw pact, if they ever had the balls to strike. Without a doubt, they would have lost a lot of land, but not all of it. Have you ever heard of Korea? Also, by the time news got out that they had attacked. Hello, draft and hello reservists going on a full-scale counter attack.

It would have been bloodied but the US and Nato would have won. Large numbers with inferior machinery and training is not any good when attacking a well trained force with better technology.

Also, look at the world. Who in the world would China trade with that would give them the amount of money the American's do? Pakistan? Russia? Saudi Arabia? Ha! There is no other nation willing to buy so much cheap crap from them. Most people around the world are frugal or don't have enough money to spend recklessly the way American's do.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:08 AM
 
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I think the Chinese would follow up on their own threat.They would kick our butts too.They would show the world who the world's military power is.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Of course the USA will soon no longer be needed,there ARE over a billion potential consumers right there in China.
Nationalists here will tell you that it's an economic impossibility to sell your products domestically, if your country's name is spelled C-H-I-N-A. After all, it's not like we ever did it before we exported our mfgr industry right?
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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China is patient and relentless. They are not like the basement dwelling internet warriors in CD, thumping their chests and saying we'd just give them the smack down.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:13 AM
 
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You do know that China shares a border with Pakistan do you not? That's an insurmountable logistics advantage at present. Only an India/US alliance could counter a Pakistan/China alliance in Central Asia. And that's not in the cards at present because our myopic government doesn't see the advantage of such an alliance. The Himalayas would be our greatest ally in such a conflict because China would have to move all of their troops and war making materiels over/through those high mountains to the south side to fight us over Pakistan. With our (and the Indian Air Force's) air power we could make that very inconvenient for them.

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Old 08-25-2011, 06:16 AM
 
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We should call chinas bluff.
1/3 of the world's population? On their turf? Able to put 100 million men under arms on short notice? Let's don't; I'm busy that weekend.

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Old 08-25-2011, 06:51 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Those troops were more than just a speed bump. They were well-equipped and well-trained so much that they could have brought a stale-mate with the Warsaw pact, if they ever had the balls to strike.
And vastly outnumbered.
Well equipped?Not until the mid to late 1980's.


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Without a doubt, they would have lost a lot of land, but not all of it.
Their job was to hold on until fresh troops arrived from the USA,that would take about a week or so.NBC weapons were always planned to be used in Europe,by both sides.Over 800 tactical nukes would be used in the WP plan.
The WP had it quite well worked out,the plans are now public in a lot of cases.15 days and the WP would be at the French border.

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Have you ever heard of Korea? Also, by the time news got out that they had attacked. Hello, draft and hello reservists going on a full-scale counter attack.
You mean where the UN forces(mainly US and ROK troops)were pushed back into a tiny peninsula by the NK forces?
Where they were trapped until a amphibious landing was made?
That Korea?

OR do you mean the 35,000 US troops that are another speedbump in the even of a continuation of hostilities?
You do know that there is only a ceasefire in place between the USA,SK and NK right?

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It would have been bloodied but the US and Nato would have won. Large numbers with inferior machinery and training is not any good when attacking a well trained force with better technology.
NATO didn't have better equipment on the ground until the mid to late 1980's...before then,the MBT of the US Army was the M60.

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Also, look at the world. Who in the world would China trade with that would give them the amount of money the American's do? Pakistan? Russia? Saudi Arabia?
Ohh,you are one of the 'they need us more than we need them' types...yeah,they have over a billion potential domestic customers.The time of the USA is passing,get used to it,I did.
Sucks but such is the life of an empire.

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Ha! There is no other nation willing to buy so much cheap crap from them.
Do you think nothing EVER changes in the rest of the world?
Do you know to a lot of the world,apart from militarily,the USA isn't any sort of force.
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Most people around the world are frugal or don't have enough money to spend recklessly the way American's do.
LOL....okay.You know little about the rest of the world then.

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