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Old 08-29-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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This guy sounds like he's one step away from leading a hate group against gays.

Rick Santorum Says Gay Community Waged Jihad Against Him Over Gay Marriage - YouTube
Mommy, mommy, he hit me back!

 
Old 08-29-2011, 01:16 PM
 
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I'm not referring to merely disagreement, nor any specific individuals. I'm referring to the generational attitude that needs to fade. Young generations tend to be more educated and progressive. Older generations favor ridiculous beliefs, and oppose things like gay marriage. I think society will be benefitted as the older generations become less influential, and the young generations take over. I'm not advocating physically killing off people who disagree with me.
I wonder what today's "progressive and more educated younger generation" with their "enlightened views" will be resisting having shoved down their throats when they become that older generation with the "ridiculous beliefs". It's gonna happen, ya know. My money is on a militant movement from pedophiles trying to convince you new/old fogeys that it's OK to have sex with 12 and 13 year olds and the "age of consent" should be lowered, since by that time all children will have known about sex, both homo- and hetero-, since they were in second grade.
 
Old 08-29-2011, 01:21 PM
 
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I wonder what today's "progressive and more educated younger generation" with their "enlightened views" will be resisting having shoved down their throats when they become that older generation with the "ridiculous beliefs". It's gonna happen, ya know. My money is on a militant movement from pedophiles trying to convince you new/old fogeys that it's OK to have sex with 12 and 13 year olds and the "age of consent" should be lowered, since by that time all children will have known about sex, both homo- and hetero-, since they were in second grade.
That argument didn't even make sense in the old days.


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Old 08-29-2011, 01:28 PM
 
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I wonder what today's "progressive and more educated younger generation" with their "enlightened views" will be resisting having shoved down their throats when they become that older generation with the "ridiculous beliefs". It's gonna happen, ya know. My money is on a militant movement from pedophiles trying to convince you new/old fogeys that it's OK to have sex with 12 and 13 year olds and the "age of consent" should be lowered, since by that time all children will have known about sex, both homo- and hetero-, since they were in second grade.
Highly doubtful (and if it were to happen it wouldn't be because of radical progressives - it'd be from reactionary conservatives). Liberals and progressives believe in science and reason and learning. Those have taught us that younger people are not emotionally and psychologically equipped for sex.

That's a change from more conservative elements of society (churches in particular) that historically viewed sex and marriage as something perfectly acceptable for young teenagers. Go back a few decades or a hundred years, and it was perfectly legal and acceptable to go plant your seed in a 13 or 14 year old girl (especially if you bought (i.e. married) her). That's not the case anymore thanks to liberals and progressives - and I really don't see conservative religion resurging and turning back the clock on this issue in the next generation.
 
Old 08-29-2011, 01:31 PM
 
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How long do you figure it'll be until Santorum is caught getting paddled by a tranny hooker in a hotel room?
Oh please! I can see that coming a mile away!
 
Old 08-29-2011, 01:51 PM
 
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Highly doubtful (and if it were to happen it wouldn't be because of radical progressives - it'd be from reactionary conservatives). Liberals and progressives believe in science and reason and learning. Those have taught us that younger people are not emotionally and psychologically equipped for sex.

That's a change from more conservative elements of society (churches in particular) that historically viewed sex and marriage as something perfectly acceptable for young teenagers. Go back a few decades or a hundred years, and it was perfectly legal and acceptable to go plant your seed in a 13 or 14 year old girl (especially if you bought (i.e. married) her). That's not the case anymore thanks to liberals and progressives - and I really don't see conservative religion resurging and turning back the clock on this issue in the next generation.
Fifty years ago the idea of same-sex marriage wasn't even on the radar and virtually no one of that day and age would have ever dreamed it would be a reality today. Fifty years from now something else will be militantly being shoved down the throats of those of you who think of yourselves as "enlightened progressives" today and you will be reviled and ridiculed for being so old-fashioned. Maybe it will be killing off old people and the hopelessly insane since they are no longer "useful" to society. Maybe it will become acceptable to eat aborted fetuses. The point is--it WILL be something that is totally unacceptable today--just as legalizing same-sex marriage was 50 years ago.
 
Old 08-29-2011, 01:53 PM
 
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Fifty years ago the idea of same-sex marriage wasn't even on the radar and virtually no one of that day and age would have ever dreamed it would be a reality today. Fifty years from now something else will be militantly being shoved down the throats of those of you who think of yourselves as "enlightened progressives" today and you will be reviled and ridiculed for being so old-fashioned. Maybe it will be killing off old people and the hopelessly insane since they are no longer "useful" to society. Maybe it will become acceptable to eat aborted fetuses. The point is--it WILL be something that is totally unacceptable today--just as legalizing same-sex marriage was 50 years ago.
Must be hard living in the world of a million hypotheticals. Get off that slippery slope and stand on your own.
 
Old 08-29-2011, 01:57 PM
 
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Must be hard living in the world of a million hypotheticals. Get off that slippery slope and stand on your own.
It's called "thinking ahead". I won't be here for whatever will be coming to pass but many of you will. I just think it's a bit humorous thinking of what will be coming 'round the mountain in the coming decades that will bite many of you in the butt.
 
Old 08-29-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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Highly doubtful (and if it were to happen it wouldn't be because of radical progressives - it'd be from reactionary conservatives). Liberals and progressives believe in science and reason and learning. Those have taught us that younger people are not emotionally and psychologically equipped for sex.

That's a change from more conservative elements of society (churches in particular) that historically viewed sex and marriage as something perfectly acceptable for young teenagers. Go back a few decades or a hundred years, and it was perfectly legal and acceptable to go plant your seed in a 13 or 14 year old girl (especially if you bought (i.e. married) her). That's not the case anymore thanks to liberals and progressives - and I really don't see conservative religion resurging and turning back the clock on this issue in the next generation.
That's gonna be YOU fifty years from now.
 
Old 08-29-2011, 02:01 PM
 
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Fifty years ago the idea of same-sex marriage wasn't even on the radar and virtually no one of that day and age would have ever dreamed it would be a reality today. Fifty years from now something else will be militantly being shoved down the throats of those of you who think of yourselves as "enlightened progressives" today and you will be reviled and ridiculed for being so old-fashioned. Maybe it will be killing off old people and the hopelessly insane since they are no longer "useful" to society. Maybe it will become acceptable to eat aborted fetuses. The point is--it WILL be something that is totally unacceptable today--just as legalizing same-sex marriage was 50 years ago.
Or maybe we'll start burning witches at the stake again or maybe I'll be able to go to the store and buy a black person. Who the hell knows, and why this even an "argument?" If I'm alive in 50 years and society thinks diddling kids, or eating fetuses, or killing retarded people is good, then I'll argue about it then.

Mistreating gays 200 years ago when the US executed them, or 40 years ago when gays were imprisoned or committed to mental institutions (or 8 years ago when 22 states still had sodomy laws), or today when we "simply" deny them civil rights and equal treatment under the law, was/is wrong. There is no rational reason to do so. It was wrong 200 years ago, it was wrong 40 years ago, it's wrong today, and it'll be wrong in 50 years if it's allowed to continue/reemerges.
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