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Fifty years ago the idea of same-sex marriage wasn't even on the radar and virtually no one of that day and age would have ever dreamed it would be a reality today. Fifty years from now something else will be militantly being shoved down the throats of those of you who think of yourselves as "enlightened progressives" today and you will be reviled and ridiculed for being so old-fashioned. Maybe it will be killing off old people and the hopelessly insane since they are no longer "useful" to society. Maybe it will become acceptable to eat aborted fetuses. The point is--it WILL be something that is totally unacceptable today--just as legalizing same-sex marriage was 50 years ago.
I'm sure you're right. 50 years from now there will be another group fighting for rights, and a bunch of old fogeys who don't think they should have those rights. 50 years ago, we had the civil rights struggle. And before that was the struggle for women's suffrage. Now we have homosexuals actually demanding that they shouldn't be treated differently than heterosexuals.
But you're "killing off old people" or eating "aborted fetuses" is a ridiculous comparison. People fighting to be treated like equals does not correllate to the horrors you are suggesting.
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I'm sure you're right. 50 years from now there will be another group fighting for rights, and a bunch of old fogeys who don't think they should have those rights. 50 years ago, we had the civil rights struggle. And before that was the struggle for women's suffrage. No we have homosexuals actually demanding that they shouldn't be treated differently than heterosexuals.
But you're "killing off old people" or eating "aborted fetuses" is a ridiculous comparison. People fighting to be treated like equals does not correllate to the horrors you are suggesting.
Well, you have to put yourself in the shoes of a bigoted, paranoid, fearful, anti-gay, homophobic hatemonger.
To them, there is little to no moral difference between killing and eating a fetus, shooting your granny or retarded cousin in the head, raping a 7 year old, or two adult males having consensual sex and living together as a family. They consider them all to be on the same plane of evil.
This gay-thing has got me thinking about groups and various demographics that I like and appreciate. In fact, I decided to make a list of the groups and/or demographics I like. I've included the first 25 in order, but you'll see that gays and lesbians are on the list further down.
1. Female porn stars (that was an easy one)
2. magicians
3. ventriloquists
4. the Detroit Tigers
5. female cheerleaders
6. tavern proprietors
7. non-vulgar comedians
8. lounge pianists
9. the Washington Redskins (the football team, not Washington residents who have Indian ethnicity, although they are okay too)
10. jugglers
11. dwarves
12. former astronauts
13. black folks (especially women)
14. cartoonists
15. the Columbus Blue Jackets
16. Asian-Americans (especially women)
17. hardware store employees
18. Independent voters
19. bowlers and pool players (tie)
20. WNBA players
21. carnies
22. firefighters
23. competitive eaters
24. dunk tank clowns
25. the cast of 30 Rock ---
77. Senior citizens (non drivers only)
78. Gays and lesbians
I'm sure you're right. 50 years from now there will be another group fighting for rights, and a bunch of old fogeys who don't think they should have those rights. 50 years ago, we had the civil rights struggle. And before that was the struggle for women's suffrage. Now we have homosexuals actually demanding that they shouldn't be treated differently than heterosexuals.
But you're "killing off old people" or eating "aborted fetuses" is a ridiculous comparison. People fighting to be treated like equals does not correllate to the horrors you are suggesting.
Finally, someone gets the point. I think.
Fifty years from now, the world will be very different from what it is today and attitudes toward many things will have changed. What boggles the mind today will become more acceptable as time goes on. Just as same-sex marriage was an outrageous notion 50 years ago but is a mainstream idea today, so pedophilia.....or euthanasia of old people and the mentally disabled......or consuming aborted fetuses in dessicated pill form for some yet-to-be discovered anti-aging benefits......any of the above may become the cause celebre of a militant group down the road. Or maybe it will be people who want to engage in group sex in public parks or go around nude in public. And today's educated and enlightened liberals will be tomorrow's "conservatives" resisting some idea they find abhorrent.
Fifty years from now, the world will be very different from what it is today and attitudes toward many things will have changed. What boggles the mind today will become more acceptable as time goes on. Just as same-sex marriage was an outrageous notion 50 years ago but is a mainstream idea today, so pedophilia.....or euthanasia of old people and the mentally disabled......or consuming aborted fetuses in dessicated pill form for some yet-to-be discovered anti-aging benefits......any of the above may become the cause celebre of a militant group down the road. Or maybe it will be people who want to engage in group sex in public parks or go around nude in public. And today's educated and enlightened liberals will be tomorrow's "conservatives" resisting some idea they find abhorrent.
Pedophilia is ok for Catholic priests, it will never be accepted by the majority of people because it hurts the children. A homosexual couple that is in love doesn't hurt anybody. Your examples are ridiculous.
Fifty years from now, the world will be very different from what it is today and attitudes toward many things will have changed. What boggles the mind today will become more acceptable as time goes on. Just as same-sex marriage was an outrageous notion 50 years ago but is a mainstream idea today, so pedophilia.....or euthanasia of old people and the mentally disabled......or consuming aborted fetuses in dessicated pill form for some yet-to-be discovered anti-aging benefits......any of the above may become the cause celebre of a militant group down the road. Or maybe it will be people who want to engage in group sex in public parks or go around nude in public. And today's educated and enlightened liberals will be tomorrow's "conservatives" resisting some idea they find abhorrent.
The problem with your scenario is this:
Women fought for rights that men already enjoyed.
Blacks fought for rights that white people already enjoyed.
Homosexuals are fighting for rights that heterosexuals already enjoy.
Euthanasia of old people or the mentally ill is not a right already enjoyed by anyone, or likely to be enjoyed by anyone 50 years from now. Pedophilia is not a right already enjoyed by anyone. Consuming aborted fetuses (really, this is a disgusting thought) is not a right enjoyed by anyone.
We live in an unjust world, where there are people of privilege and people without privileges. Each of the movements to expand civil rights was resisted by people who didn't want to share their rights, but they were overcome by people who became aware of and were convinced of the injustice being enforced by society. We saw an injustice and we rid ourselves of it.
So I think that surely we will learn of other injustices in future decades, and we will have to be persuaded again that the injustice must be overcome. There will be many of us who will resist change, who will find rationales to support the injustice. But history is telling us, that justice will triumph in the end. Because the human spirit is just.
So I think that surely we will learn of other injustices in future decades, and we will have to be persuaded again that the injustice must be overcome. There will be many of us who will resist change, who will find rationales to support the injustice. But history is telling us, that justice will triumph in the end. Because the human spirit is just.
Thank you. That WAS my point and I got off on this tangent after Fiyero proffered his idea that after those who today resist the notion of same-sex marriage die off and the more educated and enlightened ones can take over, same-sex marriage will be fully accepted and things will be hunky dory. That's when I threw out the notion that with the passage of time, today's "educated and enlightened" liberals will be the old fogeys of tomorrow and they will be the ones resisting accepting tomorrow's "outrageous" ideas. Fifty years ago same-sex marriage was considered an outrageous idea and I offered some possibilities for future "civil rights" activists that are outrageous by today's standards--pedophiles wanting access to children, immortalists wanting access to anything that might keep them young forever (such as some anti-aging nutrients that might be discovered in fetuses), killing off the non-productive elderly and the mentally disabled who are a drain on the country's financial resources, nudists who want to go around in public naked, swingers who want to hold orgies in public places, etc. Fifty years from now these ideas may be no more outrageous to those wanting them than same-sex marriage is today.
So, for some of you alive today who look down on opponents of same-sex marriage, eventually the shoe will be on the other foot and you will be the ones ridiculed for your hopelessly out-dated notions.
Fifty years from now, the world will be very different from what it is today and attitudes toward many things will have changed. What boggles the mind today will become more acceptable as time goes on. Just as same-sex marriage was an outrageous notion 50 years ago but is a mainstream idea today, so pedophilia.....or euthanasia of old people and the mentally disabled......or consuming aborted fetuses in dessicated pill form for some yet-to-be discovered anti-aging benefits......any of the above may become the cause celebre of a militant group down the road. Or maybe it will be people who want to engage in group sex in public parks or go around nude in public. And today's educated and enlightened liberals will be tomorrow's "conservatives" resisting some idea they find abhorrent.
Jump to conclusions much?
Seriously, you have tried to equate being gay with pedophilia throughout this thread, which is a fallacy.
Sheesh!
Need security? Um, probably from threats coming from you and your kind. Which makes me wonder why people post links to how gay people have 'attacked' Christians and such. Well, who made the first shot? It wasn't the gay community which has every right to retaliate and stand up for itself.
Get over yourself!
You lie, if you think I have threatened gays.
Live and let live. Even Freaks of Nature, who need a security blanket and therapy, to boost their low self esteem.
Jump to conclusions much?
Seriously, you have tried to equate being gay with pedophilia throughout this thread, which is a fallacy.
Sheesh!
Paranoid much ?
Sheesh
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