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Somehow, I dont think that is what she is referring to.
So is she saying Dr's tell women they are pregnant when they aren't and then charge them to perform an abortion? And is she saying a sonogram (which would have to be done vaginally in the early stages) would "prove" if the pregnancy was real thus preventing women from undergoing the unnecessary procedure?
I remember a true life tale from a few years back about a Dr who was a fertility specialist and in some cases he would use hormones which would make the womans body think it was pregnant and he would show them sonograms of their "baby" when it was really just showing bowl and internal organs. I mean early term sonograms are damn near impossible to read unless you are trained to know what you are looking at.
So is she saying Dr's tell women they are pregnant when they aren't and then charge them to perform an abortion? And is she saying a sonogram (which would have to be done vaginally in the early stages) would "prove" if the pregnancy was real thus preventing women from undergoing the unnecessary procedure?
I remember a true life tale from a few years back about a Dr who was a fertility specialist and in some cases he would use hormones which would make the womans body think it was pregnant and he would show them sonograms of their "baby" when it was really just showing bowl and internal organs. I mean early term sonograms are damn near impossible to read unless you are trained to know what you are looking at.
Cant speak for the other poster, but I believe she is referring to some kind of Medicare-type scam, perhaps between doctor and patient.
Also, I have had an internal sono----it's not that bad. Just like a longer pap smear. If you think you may have a tumor on your ovary you will put up with a lot. It wasnt any big deal though. No pain at all, just another doc exam.
Cant speak for the other poster, but I believe she is referring to some kind of Medicare-type scam, perhaps between doctor and patient.
I don't think the patient knew. Came to be checked for pregnancy and they told her she was pregnant and did an abortion.
You will need to actually read the stories of women who had abortions. Hear their stories. If people think abortions are ok why not listen to those who had them?
I don't think the patient knew. Came to be checked for pregnancy and they told her she was pregnant and did an abortion.
You will need to actually read the stories of women who had abortions. Hear their stories. If people think abortions are ok why not listen to those who had them?
Janelle....coming up with these stories, even it they are true, does not mean we should ban abortion.
There are a lot of bad things that happen to women who are pregnant who want their babies too.....does that mean women should stop having babies?
Women still die during childbirth....so women should stop having babies.....it can literally kill you.
Men kill women because they do not want the baby.....Scott Peterson comes to mind. There are many, many others.
How about all of the women that have been murdered by some wacko just so they could cut the baby out and keep it for themselves? That has happened quite a few times too.
Using YOUR reasoning....you should never get pregnant because you could die or someone may kill you just because you are pregnant.
Do you see now how silly it is to bring up these types of stories as an excuse to ban abortion?
Just pointing out it cuts both ways is not being mean. Women are abused for both reasons. Putting our heads in the sand and saying abortion is the answer is wrong. I don't know about banning it but when 1 in 4 pregnancies end in abortion now it should be re-examined for the reasons for what is going wrong.
I don't think the patient knew. Came to be checked for pregnancy and they told her she was pregnant and did an abortion.
You will need to actually read the stories of women who had abortions. Hear their stories. If people think abortions are ok why not listen to those who had them?
Being told you were pregnant when you weren't followed by an abortion was far more common before Roe vs Wade made abortions legal. Those back alley abortionists didn't make you do a pregnancy test beforehand. You missed a period. Good enough for them. Actually, even that wasn't necessary. All you needed was the cash and a promise to keep your mouth shut. The fact is that there are always going to be predatory people who will take advantage of women. And that is one of the many reasons why it's far better to have the industry out in the open and regulated than to push it back into the dark of night where the locations change from week to week.
You're making an assumption that the women posting in this thread haven't already heard stories from women who've had abortions. I don't believe that is the case. Most of us who care about the issue have deep-seeded reasons for coming to our viewpoint---on both sides of the issue. You insult us all by continuing to harp about "we should read their stories." I, for example, have being reading abortion stories for well over fifty years. Nothing you are posting here is new or recently discovered.
Last edited by Wayland Woman; 09-07-2011 at 11:07 PM..
The fact it is still being done is even more shameful. Abortion is such a political issue to keep it going, a lot of abuse is put up with and ignored and women are still being abused.
When I contributed to this thread in the beginning of it, it was in no way to imply that I believe abortion should be banned because some women have experienced coercion in the decision.
I do think it's prudent to be aware that the availability of abortion has given abusive men one more tool, and has also allowed men to become more and more infantile, avoiding responsibility. Anyone counseling a woman who is considering abortion should be very sensitive to her needs, desires, and her situation, and most of all, to remind her that she does, indeed, have a CHOICE.
Many women want their babies that they ended up aborting, for one reason or another. There is tremendous grief in this scenario. Some of these women then turn around and join the pro-life movement, ostensibly because they think having the choice removed altogether is the only way they could have avoided doing something that was wrong for them. Of course every woman must be responsible for her decision! But we can be compassionate at the same time and realize that some women are truly being pressured more than they can handle, especially if they are feeling nauseated or weak or excessively emotional due to hormones.
Let's do what we can to prevent these women from ending up in the pro-life camp due to their regrets.
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