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Old 09-03-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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CORPORATIONS don't vote.
It won't happen, but only tax PAYERS should be voting. Anyone taking more than SS are on the dole and tend to vote themselves politicians that give away the treasury to stay in power.

Just pass a balanced budget amendment and leave an acception for war and a national emergency and this all will fix itself.
If there is no money to bribe for a vote the number of "producers" will go up as the dole goes down.
[b]"tax PAYERS" would be everybody, or at least all adults/B]
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:29 PM
 
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Out this way in SE Los Angeles you have the bulk on public assistance and then in addition they file for multi-thousand dollar tax refunds though they don't earn any money. The IRS pays it and doesn't seem to bust these felons. Not right when so many PAY taxes.
multi thousand dollar tax refunds??? Somehow I doubt that

Also, the refunds that they do get, probably a couple of hundred at best, is their money. They get it back because too much was taking out of their paychecks. That's why it's called a "refund"
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:31 PM
 
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That seems like fraud, should be investigated and prosecuted.
Is that also your reaction when you hear about huge corporations paying zero in taxes?
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:35 PM
 
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Not only do they not pay income tax, but every tax dollar they ever paid is returned, and then some, with the subsidies they get from government.
What about the bankers who got a whole ****load of money from the government in the last days of the Bush years? Would they also lose the right to vote?
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:38 PM
 
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It doesn't. That's why they need to take more initiative and be more creative in earning a living.

For the able-bodied, there is no excuse. Read The Millionaire Next Door to see how millions of people accumulate a surprising amount of wealth while earning modest incomes. Likewise, 68.5% of America's top 400 wealthiest are self-made.
Most people are not capable of coming up with business ideas that succeed. Most small businesses fail. You're being entirely too idealistic. Take real estate for example. Very few people can actually make a living on real estate alone. There are so many agents, and it's such a difficult business that most either quit or do it part time. Expecting everyone to succeed at something like that is just plain naive.
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I think you totally missed the point of the article, which was to show why the left goes out of it's way to register those on welfare, etc.

It's all about votes. They couldn't care less about them, really.

Nowhere in the article does the author advocate for denying anybody their right to vote.
The right does their best to keep them from voting. Literacy test & Poll Tax anyone?
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I'm all for a collapse. It would kill the corruption. However, that goes for social welfare, too.
I guess you must be pretty well set then, if you want to see a collapse.

I thought you RWs usually denied you enjoyed seeing people suffer when presented with evidence of same?
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:09 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Everyone with an income already pays taxes
51% of those with an income pay NO federal income tax whatsoever.
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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I think everyone should have the right to vote as long as it's for R.W. Jenna who is challenging Ben Quayle in 2012.
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Old 09-03-2011, 04:14 PM
 
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well I think a fair solution for this is that we should have two congress.
One that deals with general laws and another congress that deals with fiscal matters.

everybody should get to vote for general congress,because if certain things get made illegal.
We all suffer a blow to our rights.

The congress that deals with fiscal matters should be decided by tax paying voters.
but,even poor people pay payroll taxes into SS and Medicare, so they should get some say also
on how that program gets handled.

ahhh forget it keep the system we have.
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